Real Random

Speaker 1 0:00

Today, in our first episode, we are coming in hot with a Bay Area babe who has played a critical role in our lives. Hey there, welcome to Real Random. I'm Rebecca, joined by Ray and Rick. Here's the deal Every episode, one of us surprises the others with a special guest from the real estate universe. Think top professionals, industry rebels and the unsung heroes of real estate. We're talking unscripted, unpredictable and undeniably real. So are you ready to dive into the random?

Speaker 3 0:37

We're not live anywhere else but the recording. But we're here.

Speaker 1 0:40

But we are alive.

Speaker 3 0:41

Yep.

Speaker 1 0:42

We're not undead. I guess we are actually undead, but not.

Speaker 3 0:46

Yeah, that's a good point In the zombie sense. Yeah, in the traditional.

Speaker 4 0:51

Whoever? Came up with that word Because you're dead Everyone undead Because you're dead, and then you're undead Like we're not.

Speaker 3 0:59

Okay, oh it's been reversed.

Speaker 4 1:01

It's like when you're booked and then unbooked, you can't be. You know what I mean? It's not yeah.

Speaker 1 1:06

Okay, so then what about people who's like heart stop or they like temporarily die? Are they undead?

Speaker 3 1:11

I would say that's more undead than us.

Speaker 4 1:15

Closer for sure yeah. And then if the zombie dies again, are they re-dead? This is an odd way to start a podcast. I think it's the perfect way.

Speaker 1 1:28

This lets the people know this is the quality content that you are signing up for when you listen to us it's pretty random.

Speaker 3 1:35

I would say that's real random.

Speaker 1 1:37

Intro yeah, the intro is going to be me saying this music sucks because it's no longer original, even though we just loved it two seconds ago.

Speaker 3 1:47

We just loved it.

Speaker 1 1:49

Well, now that we got that out of the way, I just want to let y'all know that I am super excited for our guest today. He is someone that we all know and love.

Speaker 3 2:00

Oh he, it's a he.

Speaker 1 2:01

It is a he. He is a jack of all trades. His Brad Pitt impression is unforgettable. Keep in mind I did not say it was good, but it is unforgettable.

Speaker 3 2:12

Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 1 2:14

He has saved a life and many would say that he has the tallest hair in Real.

Speaker 3 2:19

Brokerage. Oh, there you go Now before getting into real estate.

Speaker 1 2:26

He used to tour with his band singing those sweet, sweet post-hardcore tunes. Please join me in welcoming the incredible Matt Petullo Matt Petullo hey.

Speaker 3 2:36

Isn't that working? You're sharing your screen with me.

Speaker 1 2:39

You've had so many minutes to get your camera on.

Speaker 5 2:43

Are you on a?

Speaker 3 2:44

droid right now.

Speaker 5 2:45

How dare?

Speaker 3 2:46

you hey.

Speaker 5 2:48

There he is Now can I posit something into the undead conversation you?

Speaker 1 2:53

might as well.

Speaker 5 2:54

Great because I was dying back here to get this in. So that's why a lot of people go with reanimated instead of undead.

Speaker 3 3:03

But reanimation I mean in the world of Magic, the Gathering. Reanimation means they're not actually living, but something is animating them like magic.

Speaker 5 3:10

Correct. It could be an automaton. It could be something like a. Frankenstein, for example.

Speaker 4 3:15

There's many things.

Speaker 1 3:16

I'm sorry, yes.

Speaker 4 3:18

A Frankenstein. That is the correct pronunciation.

Speaker 5 3:22

Thank you, rick, is an educated man and I appreciate that about you.

Speaker 4 3:27

I grew up in Europe. We know this, though. They teach you this stuff in class over there Absolutely.

Speaker 5 3:31

You know that.

Speaker 1 3:32

Matt, you did not grow up in Europe.

Speaker 5 3:34

Don't act like you know this I didn't, but I too am a worldly cultured human. So, while I didn't technically grow up there physically, I feel mentally I was raised in that region of the world, I would agree. I would sign off on that, thank you.

Speaker 2 3:51

I'm glad you're here now.

Speaker 1 3:52

This is the same guy who says oh, I'm Italian, so I know how to make all the pasta. Do I say it like that you do, that's my best.

Speaker 2 4:00

Matt.

Speaker 1 4:00

Piccillo impression which is better than your Brad Pitt impression.

Speaker 3 4:05

just gonna say we have to see that now. Since that was in the intro, let me see the Brad Pitt.

Speaker 5 4:10

Alright, hold on Now. I do need to preface this really quickly. This is more of a caricature, of an impression right.

Speaker 1 4:18

Oh is it? Yes, it is.

Speaker 3 4:21

It's an impression from World War Z.

Speaker 5 4:26

So he does a lot of. He always makes those Brad Pitt noises. He always kind of makes that noise.

Speaker 2 4:31

He does.

Speaker 5 4:32

Yeah, again a caricature. I try to boil it down to a couple things and that's kind of the baseline.

Speaker 4 4:39

We need to do some research and find Brad making those noises. Go ahead, I'm doing a number crunch on this Anytime.

Speaker 5 4:45

He's in Fight Club. He's like rule number one don't talk about Fight Club. That's a perfect quote from Fight Club.

Speaker 1 4:50

Okay, do we think that this is a Brad Pitt impression or a Fonzie impression?

Speaker 5 4:56

No, Fonzie is completely different.

Speaker 2 4:58

Okay, okay, what is your?

Speaker 5 5:00

Fonzie impression.

Speaker 4 5:05

Fonzie is more Fonzie's more like. It's more like. Hey, it's more kind of like an Italian Brooklyn raspy steeper in the throat Brad Pitt's more.

Speaker 5 5:10

He talks like this hey, what's up? Can't wait to film this movie with you guys.

Speaker 1 5:16

Can we?

Speaker 5 5:16

please get a clip of Brad Pitt talking.

Speaker 1 5:18

Can I just cut that in?

Speaker 2 5:20

Unforgettable. We'll do this for sure.

Speaker 4 5:23

This is our first episode we're recording. We've already lost viewerships.

Speaker 3 5:27

Oh I beg to differ. People are already logging on.

Speaker 5 5:30

I beg to differ, because people are going to hear this clip. They're going to be like whoa, did they get Brad Pitt as their first guest?

Speaker 1 5:35

Yeah, they're going to be amazed.

Speaker 5 5:38

I'm bringing you guys credibility. I'm bringing you guys into the zeitgeist of podcasts bringing you guys into the zeitgeist of podcasts.

Speaker 3 5:47

You're welcome. I'm listening to uh, brad pitt and one ear while y'all have this conversation. I'm not hearing any extra sounds now. Maybe it's because they just cut a lot of this. He did say the word uh, which yeah, that's very distinct.

Speaker 4 5:59

Okay, his true fans know that he has those extra bits in there, that's part of the behind the scenes director's cut footage honestly, to do a good Brad Pitt impression, all you gotta do is eat.

Speaker 3 6:12

He's eating constantly in all of his movies, no matter what the role, he's always eating this number from Burn After Reading yeah.

Speaker 1 6:24

I may just be always distracted by his good looks to not see any of this.

Speaker 5 6:28

Oh, you're so superficial all the time I appreciate him for his skill, for his art. Does he have a great body?

Speaker 1 6:34

yeah, he does okay, but I'm there to watch the artist work I mean, I'm watching the artist's work, just maybe in a different way, my goodness.

Speaker 3 6:42

And we thought having rebecca on here was going to add some depth and, oh yeah, did you?

Speaker 4 6:43

I mean, I'm watching the artist's work, just maybe in a different way. Oh golly, my goodness. And we thought having Rebecca on here was going to add some depth.

Speaker 1 6:48

Oh, did you think I was going to class this up?

Speaker 3 6:52

Boy, were we wrong? You're the wrong gal. Hey, okay, so go back to his intro, because you said some other stuff that I had no idea and I don't know if it's true or if this is like a Brad Pitt impersonation, but he saved someone. He did. What is this? Is this like he saved someone, meaning that they were about to check out without the discount code but he gave them their discount code? Or or did Matt really save someone?

Speaker 5 7:20

that would be a funny like no interpretation of going around telling people that it is something.

Speaker 1 7:28

I would do yeah.

Speaker 3 7:31

So tell me this, tell me that I want to know.

Life-Saving Training in a Crisis

Speaker 5 7:34

Yeah, I'll kind of give the truncated version of it. Very long story short. I, before I became a real estate agent I was going through. Before I became a real estate agent I was going through I finished my EMT schooling, was going to start paramedic schooling and eventually become a firefighter, because I like being active and it was just kind of like a really cool heroic thing to do and I was like that's fun, that's kind of right up my alley. Helping people, customer service in a strange way, has always been something. I've been A pillar of the community and helping people that's always kind of what I've been drawn to Okay, I like it, yeah, right, and so Customer service, like, oh, they need our help.

Speaker 3 8:11

What better right?

Speaker 5 8:12

I mean it is At the end of the day it's customer service, and so I was going through all my training. Life happened and I became a real estate agent and about two years ago my father and I went to an orchestra. They were the full orchestra. San Francisco Orchestra was playing symphony.

Speaker 3 8:30

It was playing along to Back to the Future one of my favorite movies and I actually read about this when it happened. I thought that was so cool.

Speaker 5 8:38

It was so cool, so we were going to is one of my favorite movies, one of my dad's favorite movies. We watched it at his house all the time when we were growing up, big part of our lives. And again, shortening the story a little bit, right before the show started we were in the lobby and my dad just goes down in front of me, just boom, massive heart attack, he's out, he's done, he's gone. And so, luckily I had this training where I just kind of kicked into instinctual mode, jumped on him, started giving him CPR until they were able to get a crash cart out, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Again, very long story, harrowing story. Short, but the CPR that I gave him helped keep him oxygen going to his brain. So when they finally did have to shock him because his heart had stopped beating and it kickstarted back up again and he has made basically a full recovery since then. So yeah, not only was it just a life, it was my own dad's life, which is kind of wild.

Speaker 3 9:36

Yeah, Did he get the coupon code, though he did not get the coupon.

Speaker 5 9:41

but but the symphony hall invited him back as a special guest months later actually.

Speaker 3 9:48

So he did get a coupon code, yeah, he did I mean?

Speaker 4 9:52

that's really going to the extreme for the discount, isn't it?

Speaker 3 9:54

yeah, that is. He just put it all right.

Speaker 1 9:56

He really feigned a lot I know how do you like?

Speaker 5 9:59

he's like I'm gonna get free concerts for life out of this I wish you would have given me a heads up, because it's like one of those traumatic experiences of my life, but I just I've swaddled that, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, I'm gonna have to pay a lot of money for therapy for that later on, but for now I'm I'm dealing with it just fine it's pretty amazing, though, that you're able to rely on your training in like such a intense moment yeah, um, especially a personal, like a personally intense moment, because I know your training is made for again comparing real estate to an arm-length transaction.

Speaker 3 10:35

You don't really know the people, but they're in trouble and you're going to go and save them. This is a situation in which someone you know and love is in trouble. The fact that you could rely on that and just kind of push everything down, do what you need to, that's insane.

Speaker 5 10:49

Yeah, it really was. I mean, it's one of those moments where something happens and you feel like you blink once and 20 minutes has gone by. You're kind of standing there looking at what's happening after everything had happened and I'm like, oh and then. But after you kind of get out of that mode, it's like your brain doesn't know what to do. So I I just I walked down to the coat check after he'd been taken, when the ambulance and everything, and I was like um, and I gave her the ticket.

Speaker 5 11:13

I'm like can I get my dad's coat? And the lady was like your dad just got wheeled out in a gurney to an ambulance. You want to? You're here at the coat check. And and I was like, well, yeah, cause we have a coat here, so I have to get it for him. Like it's just weird how your brain thinks that that's an important thing to be doing. And so she's like okay, and she gives it to me. She's like are you okay? Like yeah, he'll need his coat, I guess, when he gets out of the hospital. Like it was just this weird.

Speaker 3 11:39

I mean, do you in that situation you wouldn't leave the coat? Would you leave the coat?

Speaker 5 11:43

Well, and here's, and here's the thing, because really what was going through my head is I helped my dad pick this coat out, so it was a pretty nice coat.

Speaker 2 11:51

So in my head I was like if I don't get this coat.

Speaker 5 11:54

If it were me and I woke up on the bed after having a heart attack and I look at my dad, I'm like did you get my coat? And he told me no, I'd be pissed.

Speaker 1 12:02

He'd have another heart attack right then and there.

Speaker 3 12:06

It's going to be his first question it might be.

Speaker 5 12:07

That's what I thought. It's not what happened.

Speaker 3 12:09

It's not like how did I get here? Did somebody get my coat?

Speaker 1 12:13

Thank you, where's my purse?

Speaker 5 12:15

Yeah, and if he said no, I'd be like well then, never mind.

Speaker 1 12:19

I'm out Too much inconvenience time to reanimate. Yes, yes, hey, there we go. No, but that does make sense because it's like your brain just went through this massive moment and then you're like okay, now, as I slow down, come back to earth, let's look at all the little minutiae things that, yep, you just can't process anything else, so you just process that one minor thing you do what you can to get through it.

Speaker 3 12:45

That's wild rick, you have some extreme training have you ever been in a situation like that, where you had to use it?

Rescue Stories and Phone Preferences

Speaker 4 12:57

uh, no, not really. Yeah, me neither. It wasn't really me, so I did have it. You know, it's one of those things where when everything kind of goes nuts, it's just keeping your cool because you have been exposed to certain things. There was one time in college me and my buddy were going to this place, flying down 95 and oncoming traffic. We saw a minivan go into the median and then turn sideways and just start rolling. It was like luggage and stuff flying everywhere and he was a a navy corpsman assigned to seal teams and stuff. So he had like a whole backboard crash kit in the back of his truck at all times. So he threw his truck in like four-wheel drive, jumped in the median and we were the first ones on the scene and that was a bizarre experience. So I wasn't the one leaping into action, I was just like his nurse. I was just doing everything he told me to do.

Speaker 4 13:51

But we were able to get the whole family out of the van and stabilize. So when the ambulance showed up on scene, like everybody was, he was like, yeah, this guy's got this, this, she's got a neck brace and like and like they were good.

Speaker 3 14:04

So that was weird. That's. That's incredible. I've always wondered like what I would be in that kind of situation, and I'm pretty sure I'd be terrible. I would just be like watch him do his thing.

Speaker 4 14:18

But yeah, there was a lot of people who were just standing around doing nothing and watching. So I guess I give myself a little bit of credit for at least having the composure to a hundred percent.

Speaker 5 14:27

A hundred percent because most people think they're helping and they don't. Um, a very similar situation happened to me. I was going to a oakland a's game here in the bay area, saw an accident happen in front of us and my first instinct was just pull over, start assessing people and getting them set and you'll, people will just crowd around the area and be like, well you know, shake his, smack his face to keep him awake. I'm like no, don't touch his neck. Like what do you go away? Like please, just go away. Like people think they help but they just hurt. So the fact that you didn't hurt was actually helping yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 4 15:00

You know, a lot of this was not really by choice.

Speaker 5 15:03

I he's six foot built, like me and he was like you, go there and do that crap to get this out of the truck.

Speaker 4 15:11

I was really just following orders. He may have killed me if I did anything wrong.

Speaker 1 15:15

He bullied you into helping.

Speaker 4 15:18

Everything we did together as friends, he bullied me into doing.

Speaker 1 15:21

Paul, if you're listening, that's definitely you, I'm like Ray in the I think I probably do terrible. I was at a restaurant once and they had I don't know why they had it set up like this, but they had a candle and then they had the bread basket connected together and there's paper around the bread part. So I had shifted it. Why, I don't know know, but I did, I shifted the paper and then it caught on fire and I just kind of scooted myself back from the table and then I'm looking around the restaurant.

Speaker 1 15:55

I'm like uh, uh, I need uh while it's on fire, because I didn't have any water. I had a cocktail and I'm like I don't think pouring alcohol on the fire is going to help. I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

Speaker 3 16:10

It would have been fine, but yeah, it's not it's not like straight rubbing alcohol.

Speaker 1 16:16

Okay, I was 21. I didn't know.

Speaker 3 16:19

You're right, you would. You would be terrible. I think your assessment is correct. You would be terrible in those circumstances.

Speaker 1 16:23

I think your assessment is correct. Hopefully that never happens.

Speaker 3 16:30

Next time I'm in a restaurant, I'm going to definitely set something on fire and just watch.

Speaker 5 16:36

Maybe I'll call the better. I don't know.

Speaker 1 16:38

I've aged.

Speaker 5 16:38

Bring a fire extinguisher, because she ain't putting it out. She's going to scoot away from the table.

Speaker 1 16:42

No, I'm just going to be like can someone take care of this? This?

Speaker 5 16:45

is not my job, Garcon fire.

Speaker 3 16:50

This came with my order and I didn't order it. You know something that wasn't in his bio, Rebecca, and I don't know if you didn't include this on purpose.

Speaker 2 17:03

It's a former droid user we have with us.

Speaker 1 17:08

It was a big deal this is one of his deep, dark secrets. I didn't want to embarrass him too much.

Speaker 5 17:14

It's not a secret. I touted it. I didn't care I was proud.

Speaker 1 17:19

I was pretty impressed with how quickly you were bullying Shane into switching, though I was like you know what.

Speaker 4 17:26

I've only met Matt once and this was at barbecue, but he seems like the kind of guy that will stand his ground, hold his own, and I mean you folded pretty quick, All right. Look, I was a little disappointed. I'm glad to have you over to the blue bubble side, but I was a little disappointed how quickly you caved in. I'm sorry. The what side? The blue?

Speaker 5 17:44

bubble Did not hear that.

Speaker 2 17:49

Did not hear that.

Speaker 4 17:53

Ray, just make sure in post that that's what it says.

Speaker 1 17:56

Ray, make sure that that's not what it sounds like.

Speaker 3 17:58

It was transcribed there Quick edit. Ray.

Speaker 5 18:01

Look, okay here. Look, I was already planning on making the switch.

Speaker 5 18:05

Because, because, because, already planning so many people were like hey look, your social media will just look better with an iphone and I really wanted to start focusing more on my social media and I did some research about it and everybody said yeah, it's just, it's just a better system to use for uploading, it's better quality, it's better everything. And I went okay, well, that that was it. That's all I needed to hear at that point is that I was already going to yes it is.

Speaker 4 18:27

I was under the impression that, like the Androids and the Google phones were like actually way better. I like the apples because they're kind of idiot proof and easy to use.

Speaker 5 18:36

So the the picture and video quality is better on Android, but when you upload to social media platforms because they're made for iPhones, they have to almost go through this processing thing to where it actually makes the quality worse. So, standalone the picture quality is better on Androids and Google, but for uploading to social media they're better on iPhones.

Speaker 3 18:58

Basically, the Droid photos and videos are better on Droid for Droid. Right but everywhere else, which the majority of America uses Apple product. Iphone everywhere else is better for iPhone.

Speaker 1 19:11

Yes, it's because of how they do the apps, so they can write the same code for the Apple apps, apple version of it, so it's able to upload. It looks really great, but there's so many different Android interfaces or whatever that they just do a screen recording of it so they don't actually upload your normal quality. It's taking a screen and so that's why it doesn't look good. That's the same reason I made the switch over to iphone, because I used to be a lifelong android user as well the truth comes out, my goodness, where did you learn this rebecca that seemed.

Speaker 4 19:43

That's pretty the internet.

Speaker 1 19:46

It's called google. Wow, yeah, because I was like why does my? Because every time I would upload something, I'm like why does it not look as good? This is really annoying, because I got this phone for the camera quality, because it has the samsung galaxy, it had the best camera quality, but I'm not seeing that when I'm uploading it. So then I found out why? And I was like well, that's stupid, so I guess I have to become an iphone user now what phone did you have before I've like?

Speaker 4 20:14

what phone did I have before? Yeah, before iphone oh, that's going back a few years. I think the last phone I had before my iphone was. I think it was a, wasn't a blackberry, I think it was the black jack pilot ah, the blackjack.

Speaker 3 20:33

I had a blackberry yeah, I did have a blackberry that's how long I've been the razor, and then I went to the blackjack I had the razor, I went to the blackberry. I think, uh like 8800.

Speaker 4 20:44

Those are the big blackberry with the full keyboard and we'll keep the little rollerball yeah, yeah yeah, and everyone was like, oh, what they're getting all of us right now, like how?

Speaker 3 20:53

old.

Speaker 1 20:54

Yeah, no, they're like okay, I know what a blackberry is, but I've never heard of a blackjack they're gonna release this phone with a digital keyboard.

Speaker 4 21:01

That's never gonna work because people can't feel the, yeah, the first time I saw an iphone, I was actually uh, I was out of the navy, I was back home, I was working security as a as a bouncer at teen night at one of these beach clubs down here, right. So it's like 13 to 17. Um, it's just the kids being stupid.

Speaker 5 21:23

Yeah, I know, matt do you need to be a bouncer at that club? Not only did we have a full team.

Speaker 4 21:29

We had like 12 bouncers. We had sheriff's department on hand, because these kids, I'm telling you, I've been to clubs in some of the biggest cities. These kids are worse. They're terrible, bringing in drugs and weapons. So we had to pat down every kid that came in. And so this kid walks up and he looks like he's eight and I'm like bro, how old are you? He's like 13. I was like no way. So I'm patting him down, he empties out his pockets and he's got like a big old wad of cash and a brand new iphone. And I was like what is that? He was like my. I've never seen one before and I'm looking at it. I was like how in the hell does this work? Like there's no buttons on it. Like how does it know what you're pushing? I was like this is going to be the worst thing ever. And so, yeah, then, like six months later, I got one.

Speaker 3 22:15

This is going to be the worst ever.

Speaker 4 22:16

You're inspired by an eight-year-old.

Speaker 5 22:20

his mom was there to vouch for him I mean, that's the funniest entrance to a club I've ever heard in my life dude.

Speaker 4 22:27

Seriously, we used to have to. We used to have to send kids back in the parking like you better run down there and catch your mom, because there's no way you're 13 and they would run down there, flag them down, come back up and mom and dad would vouch for them so they could get into the. Oh wow, I'm telling you, it's the experience. I did that for a couple of years before I got into real estate.

Speaker 5 22:47

Good switch.

Speaker 3 22:47

Yeah, also saving lives at the club.

Speaker 4 22:52

That's where I got my nickname Big man Run Slow, because I was patting a kid down and in his belt he had one of those old film cases full of weed.

Speaker 2 23:03

Oh, yeah, so as.

Speaker 4 23:04

I'm patting it. As soon as I pull it out and I see what it is, he bolts and takes off running sheriff's department, me and two other bouncers, and this I was already 30, I don't know, 32, 33. I was in my thirties, this kid is fast. And so he outran me, and luckily the sheriff's got on radios and they. And so he outran me and luckily the sheriff's got on the radios and they got him further down.

Speaker 3 23:27

But all the other bouncers they were like yeah, big man runs low, I appreciate it. So that was my nickname.

Speaker 1 23:31

I remember film canisters Is this anyone else's first time learning that this is Rick's nickname?

Speaker 4 23:37

No no no.

Speaker 3 23:37

It was.

Speaker 1 23:38

It's his forever nickname now it's your forever nickname, for sure.

Speaker 5 23:42

Are you faster? No, it's your forever nickname for sure.

Speaker 4 23:46

Are you faster? No, I'm older and slower for sure.

Speaker 1 23:52

So old big man runs slow. Is that how we want to update it?

Speaker 4 23:57

Big man, don't run. How about that? I just don't run anymore. Unless someone is seriously chasing me and threatening bodily harm, I'm not running.

Speaker 3 24:05

I respect that know your strengths all right, uh, rebecca, I know I've kind of dominated the questions. Do you have any uh canned questions for matt, or do you want me to continue to grill him?

Speaker 1 24:18

um well, I wanted to ask you guys if you are aware of this little game called dungeons and dragons yes are you aware that matt is um very much into dungeons and dragons. He is a dungeon master at times. Um he has how many different games going right now like three campaigns.

Speaker 5 24:38

Yeah, wow, are you the gm for all of them. No, no player for two, gm for one. Okay, I got a there's my handbook right there. I have it on my wall, so I could. Yes sir. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 24:53

Ray brings out the dice yes, nerds unite. So he also has a podcast about D&D where he and his friends do kind of this live role play game. Well, I guess it's not live.

Speaker 3 25:07

Is it a video or is it just pod?

Speaker 5 25:09

Just audio what's it called New Crits on the Block. Oh, that's good, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 25:17

That's a good name, thank you. Yeah, we've been doing it for just over three years now and we've built a pretty decent following and community, which is, uh, just pretty cool. We kind of started it just because we wanted to record it and have this, uh, basically this collaboration put down so we could go back and listen to it later. And we just started putting it out there and now we get a couple hundred downloads every week. We put one out and we have a pretty thriving discord where people do fan art for us and talk about theories of the show and where it's going and it's it's been a pretty cool ride as kind of a side thing.

Speaker 4 25:51

So wait, are you like a full-on nerd because I'm seeing like the marvel stuff behind you and the ghostbusters like? And the disney do we go to a comic-con and like a weed, like yes, oh yeah, huge, full-on nerd, full-on nerd I did not know this when we were having dinner. This is so awesome.

Speaker 1 26:09

I, like you, you didn't pick up on those nerd vibes from him.

Speaker 4 26:12

No, not at all. They were drowned out by all the GQ vibes.

Speaker 2 26:20

That's why he's so good with fashion.

Speaker 1 26:21

It's like his disguise.

D&D and Music

Speaker 3 26:23

It is. Can we just take a minute?

Speaker 5 26:25

Oh yeah, there's my character.

Speaker 3 26:27

Matt Eowyn Letheos. Yep, yeah, there you go, that's me, that's how you know someone's into D&D, if they can pronounce that you nailed it. Well, you know, are you?

Speaker 5 26:38

a Lord of the Rings fan Because you know, anything elvish is along the same lines. You crushed it.

Speaker 3 26:44

Okay, that's good. Are you a half elf or a full elf?

Speaker 5 26:47

Full. I'm a wood elf.

Speaker 3 26:49

A wood elf, wood elf ranger. Yep, that's something I can tell by the top portion of your character image.

Speaker 5 26:59

Exactly, yeah, that's how you know someone does the bone structure, the ears. Good, you're set.

Speaker 4 27:04

So can I say real quick, like when I, when I first reached out to Ray and Rebecca about doing this podcast, this is exactly what I was hoping we would do. We've people that we already know we would just get to know on such a different level because we're talking about stuff that we don't talk about in real estate, masterminds and stuff you know. So this is this is awesome. I'm loving it.

Speaker 5 27:29

Well, and stuff you know. So this is, this is awesome. I'm loving it. Well, I'm so glad to hear that, because rebecca sent. I don't know if you guys were a privy to this, but she goes.

Speaker 3 27:33

Here's some questions I'm thinking about asking, and they're so official I guess is my the word for it, and rebecca has been very official about this whole thing it's not a bad thing and that's and that's what I told her was.

Speaker 5 27:40

to the normal person, I think this would be good because it's it's what accomplishments do you have? Or what expert, what niches your expertise in, and all this stuff. And I don't see myself as that type of person at all. So as I kept reading the questions, I was just filled more and more dread of like, oh no, I don't know any, I don't know anything and I'm going to come on here and be shown as a fraud to my entire brokerage and the internet.

Speaker 5 28:04

That's still, I mean, jury's out okay, michael's always terrify our guests before they put on right, but I can like dance around and give you a little shock and awe of like I'm a nerd, I saved a life, I, I do music, and you're like, oh, totally forgetting that I'm like, uh, you know, a regular real estate agent guy, I guess.

Speaker 4 28:22

No, we still know you're pretty yeah and it's too early, I mean it's only there's the podcast for those yeah, we'll put it in the show notes too.

Speaker 5 28:29

Link up oh cool, I would love that.

Speaker 3 28:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah new crits on the block, that's it and I will say it is very entertaining have you been listening?

Speaker 1 28:37

it's really well done I have. Are you a regular listener?

Speaker 3 28:40

or did like when you found this, where you're like, oh, I've got to go now wait what she's been binging it. I've been binging it when you've heard this, I'm asking if you knew about this beforehand, or did you just now hear about it and you're like, oh, I gotta go listen to all these shows now oh, no, no, no, um, I guess you told me about it.

Speaker 1 28:58

What a couple months ago and then I started or well, probably soon after we met is when you told me about it and then I started listening to it. A couple months ago, so I've been binging it. Yeah, I'm like halfway through the campaign, I think I don't know. I'm on arc 10. It's. It's phenomenal, I love it, it's super entertaining.

Speaker 3 29:19

Do the voices too, man, or is it yeah?

Speaker 1 29:21

oh yeah, they do all. They get super into it. I highly recommend and I'm like really particular about entertainment that I listen to, so if it's getting my two thumbs up then you know it's worthwhile.

Speaker 4 29:36

Do we have any Big Bang fans in here? Big Bang the TV show.

Speaker 1 29:40

I do enjoy Big Bang.

Speaker 4 29:41

Do you remember when? Penny started playing online and she started like cracking out playing the game. I'm a little concerned for Rebecca right now that she might turn into Penny 2.0.

Speaker 1 29:54

I started playing D&D after listening to his podcast because I'm like this is so much fun.

Speaker 3 30:01

I saw that you were doing that with your kids, but I had no idea. Not your kids, but with the kids in your life.

Speaker 1 30:06

Yes, my nieces and nephews yeah.

Speaker 3 30:08

Because I saw you, know, I saw you playing. I'm like, oh she's, she's into D and D like that shocked me, but I had no idea it was Matt that got you into it.

Speaker 1 30:17

Yes, he is the inspiration I mean. Okay, to be fair, it was the community episode when they were playing D and D bear. It was the community episode when they were playing dnd. That's what first got me interested in it. But then I had no like resources and I had no one around me who was playing, so it just kind of went to the back burner and then matt came into my life and reignited the passion that I didn't know that I had. Who?

Speaker 1 30:39

knew who knew. So now, yeah, idm a little game for my niece and nephew so that they can have structured imagination.

Speaker 1 30:51

Yes because they're always I'm trying to teach them the rules of improv, yes, and because one will be like I'm a monster and I shoot you, and the other one's like, no, you didn't, you missed me. And I'm like, okay, that doesn't actually work. Guys, you have to say yes, you, you hit me, but I have a shield so that you can play together and it's not just no, you didn't, yes, I did, and with dnd you have the roles and if you didn't roll correctly, then guess what? You didn't get to do that. Or yes, you did, and let the dice determine the outcome. And they love it, even though they're like four and seven, that's so funny.

Speaker 3 31:24

So have you all seen uh rory's story cubes? No, so this is it's. Uh. You basically roll these cubes and they have symbols on them and then you tell a story and it's kind of built like a game, like who tells the best story, but in reality it's just really fun to like tell part of a story and then somebody else rolls and they have to add on to that story using what is rolled, and so we've been doing that with our kids for a long time.

Speaker 3 31:49

They love the Roy story, cubes and you can get all kinds of things. But it reminds me of the D&D stuff and for I mean there needs to be something. Surely there's probably products out there and if we have a listener they're probably going to drop them in the comments about like D&D stuff for kids and you know dungeons that are not like a dungeon crawl, it's like a castle crawl. You know it's a little different than a different bent than you normally have in a regular D&D game, but that's hilarious. I had no idea about either of you. I saw you, rebecca, posting on Instagram but I had no idea Matt was into.

Speaker 2 32:21

D&D. Oh yeah, how and?

Speaker 3 32:21

posting it on Instagram. But I had no idea Matt was into D&D.

Speaker 5 32:24

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 32:24

How.

Speaker 5 32:26

What is that supposed to mean? How?

Speaker 2 32:27

would.

Speaker 3 32:29

I know he must be very secure in his relationship with you, to open up that much and say it, and then we just blast it on the internet. Right.

Speaker 1 32:37

I posted it on my Instagram. I asked him that's true, he posted on his instagram now in my list of questions. I did say I was like nothing is off off topic, nothing is off limits, unless there's something that you want to be off topic or off limits. And he didn't answer any of the questions.

Speaker 2 32:53

So but I didn't answer that question.

Speaker 5 32:57

So, yeah, no, we're good, I'm good, I'm an open book. That's why I said whatever you guys want this podcast and interview to be, go for it. I'll fit that mold we're here.

Speaker 3 33:09

The brad pitt impersonation to launch was, I mean, unforgettable it set the vibe for the rest of this right.

Speaker 1 33:16

Yeah, yeah I told you. Now we do know that Matt is musical, but have you guys heard any of his music from before real estate?

Speaker 3 33:28

No, and.

Speaker 2 33:29

I only found out he was musical recently.

Speaker 4 33:31

Where would you have heard it?

Speaker 3 33:34

Is it out there somewhere I heard him sing on the gram.

Speaker 4 33:39

It is. That's the only way I knew he was in there?

Speaker 3 33:42

What's the name? What's okay? So have you always been musical?

Matt's Music Career and Transition

Speaker 5 33:47

Yes, always Before you look it up.

Speaker 3 33:48

Okay.

Speaker 5 33:50

Go ahead, go ahead, rebecca.

Speaker 3 33:53

Before you look it up. I'm waiting. I'm not looking at it, sorry, I'm having a little bit.

Speaker 1 33:57

I'm having a delay. We're frozen, Okay then.

Speaker 5 34:00

I'll answer Rick's question. Yes, I've always been into music. Before you go, I know I mentioned it.

Speaker 3 34:06

It is a little bit of a delay.

Speaker 4 34:08

You may have to refer to something how far into.

Speaker 2 34:10

Washington, are you? Oh, my goodness, we're all nuts. You're the only one delayed.

Speaker 1 34:16

I don't know what's happening. All right, I know I mentioned it in the intro. Okay, well, that's phenomenal's I mentioned in the intro, but y'all probably weren't paying attention. If you had to guess what kind of music Matt sang, what would it be?

Speaker 4 34:29

Oh, definitely country. Look at him.

Speaker 3 34:32

No way, he's too California. He's way too California. I mean I could see him doing like crooner style stuff, but being that being California, you know it's going to be like some 41 blink 182 stuff some pop punk yeah, I love pop punk, but that was not what we did what did you did, we did?

Speaker 4 34:57

how far away are you from crenshaw? You're just a gangster rapper.

Speaker 5 34:59

No, we're I'm in the. I'm in norcal, right, so that's a good 500 miles away from crenshaw. No, I'm in NorCal, right, so that's a good 500 miles away from Crenshaw. Okay, just checking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And while I do, I love me some. Frank Sinatra, dean Martin, I mean, crooners is oof, I love that, love that era of music. But no, we did. Post-hardcore Emo is probably a more normal name for people to know what that is kind of alternative vibe like dashboard confessional stuff no, not dashboard, I love dashboard.

Speaker 5 35:30

Oh, I love dashboard. Confessional so much. Uh, one of my favorite bands, one of my favorite bands growing up. The drummer of that band is incredible. No one gives him enough credit but he plays with so much. Sorry, I could, I could way get into this, uh, but I'll stop myself there. No, it was more of like the how about more screamo might be a better word for you guys to associate it with. Really, yeah, okay, there, there it is.

Speaker 3 35:53

I can't picture you doing that at all yeah, nobody can, it's pretty funny I was the screamer.

Speaker 5 36:01

No, I didn't like to do that. I hurt my voice too much so what?

Speaker 3 36:05

what did you do? I was a front man, so the singing so you did do this, this but, but it's screamo right, but I didn't do the screaming parts, so a lot of times it's in the screamo in the screamo world, you usually had a clean vocalist and a a dirty or screaming vocalist.

Speaker 5 36:23

Some people would do both, but they thrash their voice, and so I didn't want to do that.

Speaker 4 36:28

Kind of like a stuntman for your voice.

Speaker 5 36:31

It's like a stuntman for my voice. Rick. That is so aptly put. I love that, and that's what I'm going to say from now on.

Speaker 4 36:38

He's like hey look, the safety guy said that's not good for my voice, so you can go and do the screaming for me.

Speaker 5 36:43

Pretty much, yeah. So I let my guitarist just like ruin his, his voice on behalf, on behalf of the art.

Speaker 2 36:50

So you know he was happy to make that sacrifice.

Speaker 3 36:53

Yeah, okay. So, do we have, can we? So? Are you signed by a record?

Speaker 4 36:57

label. We got to get a link for this for the description description we were.

Speaker 5 37:01

We were independent, I mean, we weren't like on mtv. You know there's different levels and to get to that like highest level it's it's not so much skill, it's luck. And while we kind of got to a pretty decent level, I mean we opened for a lot of bigger bands, we toured around, we played a bunch of shows, some pretty big shows too, which was really exciting, uh. And then it just kind of got to a point where I kind of had to make the decision of do I want to keep really like grinding and pursuing this and who knows what's going to happen, or do I just want to do something different and go a different direction in my life? And I chose the latter because I had kind of gotten what I wanted out of the music scene, which was I played the shows.

Speaker 5 37:38

I have the records we were on the radio, you know, here and there. Nothing again, not huge, so don't think that. But I checked all the boxes that I wanted with what I wanted to get out of it. And then I was just ready for a new adventure, which is what led me into the firefighting line before I got into real estate, into this one.

Speaker 3 37:56

So what was the name of your group?

Speaker 5 38:01

The most recent iteration was called what. Well we had a bunch. How do you not remember? The name of your group because I was in art and you don't remember the name of the group because I was in multiple vans okay, so I was gonna say the most recent iteration of it was called the silver lining.

Speaker 5 38:20

Okay. So the problem is, if you look it up, ray, you're probably gonna find like the movie. So if you type in, if you're looking for it, if you type in, uh, the silver lining, go to youtube, the silver lining and do um, I found a picture so matt really got around, apparently, when he was doing his yeah, do. Let's see what would be the best one for you to listen to no.

Speaker 3 38:46

no, I think I found something.

Speaker 5 38:48

Yeah, well, probably, oh do the Silver Lining Dreamers of the Day.

Speaker 3 38:53

That's probably the best one for you to listen, to Tell me if this is the right crew, matthew. Oh, that's us baby, that's me, that's me right in the front man. So Matt is in a jean, a jean vest, right because you might get cold, but not too cold. White shirt, black pants.

Speaker 5 39:13

And the rest of the crew is in all black.

Speaker 3 39:15

Oh yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 1 39:18

His pants are still that skinny to this day.

Speaker 5 39:21

Absolutely, if not skinnier.

Speaker 3 39:22

Back then he was before his time.

Speaker 4 39:24

The hair is taller today, though, isn't it? Oh, absolutely, I just went from.

Speaker 5 39:28

It went from down to just up at this point I was like, okay, I need to be a little more business professional, so I just went. Well, I don't really want to cut it too much, so I just go like this, and it works no, this is great and now you can see which is always, I'm pretty far down the rabbit

Speaker 3 39:44

hole I can't. I'm trying to figure out what I can and can't play, because if I play some, I want to play a song or something, but you will get copyright stricken by who?

Speaker 5 39:54

it's mine right, I know, but maybe that could be our outro auto they auto copyright, if you've got it protected on your thing. I don't think we do.

Speaker 2 40:03

I can't imagine we do okay are you trying to find a song on?

Speaker 3 40:06

your thing? I don't think we do, I can't imagine we do.

Speaker 5 40:08

Okay, are you trying to find a song on your Facebook channel? Maybe I will. Maybe I'll get my first one after playing on this podcast.

Speaker 3 40:14

37 cents baby, that's fun. So how long were you with this group?

Music, Creativity, and Mario Kart

Speaker 5 40:18

For a couple of years. For a couple of years, yeah, we create all our music and, uh, toot around, played shows. It was. It was a blast, it was a lot of fun and just kind of having having my, my brothers, in there going through this very difficult thing to do uh, very, very tough, but it was fun to have them with us and we're I'm I'm proud of what we created together and so that kind of just, it was a time and it was fun and I've always enjoyed creating music and creating anything.

Speaker 5 40:49

Really, I just like to create things and so, kind of tying it into the podcast, I create all of the music within the podcast as well, and so it's just more of an outlet for my music to have some place to go and be published and for people to hear it.

Speaker 5 41:05

It's a completely different thing, obviously, because I'm not doing screamo music in our podcast, but I started like tinkering around with orchestration and songwriting and all these types of things, almost like a soundtrack to a movie of what would fit this scene, to kind of give it that heightened sense, to kind of really bring it to life, and it's been a really fun adventure in that sense now, so I'm always kind of changing the dial a little bit just to keep myself interested in things, because I'm one of those people who will lose interest in things very quick if it gets monotonous or boring or tedious, and so I'm always kind of trying to find a way to keep that spark going, to keep me focused in on it might be the only one that's thinking right now that we should have matt do the jingle for the podcast.

Speaker 3 41:44

Yeah, we need a jingle, Matt, because Ray found some good music, but it's not original, that's not original and I'm like well hold on.

Speaker 5 41:53

Do we have a name for the podcast yet? Have we landed on one?

Speaker 3 41:56

I think we're landing on Real Random, but we'll see.

Speaker 5 41:58

Ooh, I like that.

Speaker 3 41:59

Yeah, because it's real estate kind of related, but it's pretty random as well as you can see the topic selection we've had so far.

Speaker 5 42:08

I absolutely love it. Um and ray, you said the best song that we did.

Speaker 3 42:10

What's your favorite song?

Speaker 5 42:11

uh, dreamers of the day. So if you go to youtube and do, yeah, dreamers of the day, it's probably that, like it's the the one that kind of shows what we did is that working?

Speaker 3 42:20

is that, could y'all hear that at all, or no? No, I didn't hear anything I'm gonna do this so I can share audio. Hang on, remove that source. Give me just a second. It's like 41 minutes share your screen yeah, I'm just trying to share the audio from it. All right, this is on uh band camp, yeah this one time this is a I like, I like, already like how you start this actually say goodbye to your thoughts inside.

Speaker 2 43:04

This is good.

Speaker 3 43:08

There's a screamer. Okay, now I get it. So, I used to this is music that I listened to all the time back then.

Speaker 5 43:16

Now can I tell you, ray, the fact that you stopped it right at that drop just destroyed my soul.

Speaker 3 43:22

I know, I know A lot of, but that's what you do, though. You keep people wanting more.

Speaker 4 43:28

Now both of our listeners are going to go down a little bit and listen to that oh come on.

Speaker 3 43:33

Everybody's got to go check it out themselves.

Speaker 5 43:35

Yeah, so this is what you listen to back, so you don't listen to this type of music anymore. Just as a nostalgic thing.

Speaker 3 43:43

I'm a super-moody music listener. Okay, it was funny, my kids were asking me this the other day. They're like what's your favorite song?

Speaker 3 43:51

I'm like depends on the mood, like I don't have a impossible favorite song, don't have a favorite band, and we were eating dinner at the time and they were like, well, what about for now? And so I told our smart speaker to play diana crawl because it was like a cool, chill, jazzy, you know the. So I love that at that moment, but this is the stuff I listened to when I was like like before workout. I will still listen to this kind of music, so I'll probably, I'll probably actually put on your stuff.

Speaker 5 44:20

Is it all? Is it all kind of like that? I love that stuff? Oh, yeah, yeah. Is it all kind of like that? I love that stuff? Oh yeah, yeah. It's upbeat, energetic, it's fun. We have one kind of ballad-y song, if you want to call it that, in there, but it's still really upbeat and has a lot of energy to it.

Speaker 3 44:32

There was another group that was more popular than Dashboard Confessional. That was around at the same time that I cannot think of them for the life of me, but you're very similar to them.

Speaker 4 44:46

Rebecca.

Speaker 1 44:46

Rebecca is trying to be serious right now. She took a deep breath like she was going to tell us we're doing something wrong. No, I was not going to say that, but I was well. Also, it keeps delaying on my end, so I take a deep breath to make sure I'm not going to cut in on something, but I was. Also, I'm trying to convince Matt to get the band back together to play at Rise in San Diego.

Speaker 3 45:06

Oh, that would be rad.

Speaker 1 45:09

Right, but my argument is he's like oh, people aren't going to be into it.

Speaker 5 45:12

No, because that would be fun for a very Think of the people who are going to be there. We might appeal to 5% of them or something like that. It would not be. If we played that song, most people would be like, oh god, what is this? It's too noisy, right they're wrong.

Speaker 4 45:30

There's a lot of realtors there that are way older than I am and I'm old no, you're not.

Speaker 5 45:36

Come on, you're not old, stop saying that 50 this year, dude that's not that old.

Speaker 1 45:41

You look great, I still feel 50 is the new 40 well, 50 is the new 40.

Speaker 2 45:45

Well, 50 is the new 40.

Speaker 5 45:46

There you go, which is the new 30.

Speaker 1 45:49

This will make you feel young again.

Speaker 5 45:50

Yeah, you're 20. You're good.

Speaker 1 45:53

Hey, no, that's solid.

Speaker 5 45:54

That's good for cutie.

Speaker 4 45:56

This is so crazy.

Speaker 5 45:57

Oh, I'm seeing them in October. They're playing all of my favorite album of theirs, transatlanticism, and it's so good. One of my favorite bands of all time yeah, I think you're leaning there's.

Speaker 3 46:08

I'll try to find who it was, but that I mean you. That reminded me, and it also. You have a very good voice. That's impressive, thank you. Thanks, man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 46:16

And so you didn't go to school for singing or anything like that no, so my uh, where I get my singing love from is my mom. So I live in a very small town called Benicia. It's a very small town here in the Bay Area. Most people don't even know it exists. It's like four exits on a freeway and you're through it. My mom was a children's singer and I'm sure you all know who Raffi is. You know Baby Beluga, down by the scene where the watermelon's grow.

Speaker 3 46:45

No, you don't know, baby beluga in the deep blue sea. So yes, I've heard that song okay, so that's raffy.

Speaker 5 46:49

He was like a mega star child singer. My mom was like the local raffy of our town. Where she would go, people would hire her for birthday parties, she'd be hired at school, she'd be hired at work events for the kids and she'd go and sing songs. She had little puppets for things like. She was a whole children's performer for a good amount of my childhood and uh, that's kind of where I get my singing and performing chops from.

Speaker 1 47:16

Is is from my mom, who knew this makes a lot of sense yeah did your mom also try to demolish small children in games, or is that just a you thing?

Speaker 5 47:28

oh, that's just a me thing. I'm sorry you have to earn.

Speaker 1 47:32

If you're playing me in a game, you earn the win so I don't know if y'all saw matt's story from yesterday, but he completely demolished his nephew who's like five in a game six? Yeah, no remorse whatsoever, he's just like yeah this is welcome to the next level yeah, hey, you want to take the crown.

Speaker 5 47:53

You gotta you better not miss, kid, come get it you better not miss, kid.

Speaker 3 47:57

Yeah, you come for the king you best not miss.

Speaker 5 48:00

It was mario kart, that's hilarious a game that I've been playing for a very long time, by the way.

Speaker 3 48:05

Have you seen the Mario Kart Pros?

Speaker 5 48:08

Yes, they're insane.

Speaker 3 48:09

So, with my segment of my kids are going to be very good at video games, and the Mario Kart Pros are where we're headed next, because they just get first all the time. Yes, and so they're kind of like bored getting first all the time. I'm like, well, you know there are shortcuts and they're like what? Like yeah, there's different paths you can take and it's opening up the world of mario kart love it.

The Artistic Expression Dilemma

Speaker 5 48:37

I love that you haven't played mario kart since the super nintendo days wait, snes snes, yeah, oh yeah way back when oh yeah, we would go when we were on our traveling soccer league, that's, we would always carry our snes with us and play mario kart constantly between games and tournaments I love it I'm a big sports guy too. Is that shocking to everybody as well?

Speaker 3 49:01

no, I kind of figured the sports thing okay, what's the number one sport?

Speaker 5 49:05

oh, playing, watching. What are we talking about watching watching? I think it's football, um, but yeah, yeah, there's me, there's me. That's a picture of my I just want to.

Speaker 3 49:18

I want everyone to see the end of this or watching mario kart happen. Matt trash talks. I was trying to be with his head between his knees.

Speaker 4 49:34

It's a good. It's a good life lesson. Well done, matt. Well done.

Speaker 5 49:37

Thank you. I you know what? Because that's how I learned to be tough and how I learned to be successful is because my dad was the same way. He didn't. I wasn't like hard on me, but he didn't let me win at things, and he taught me how to, how to be successful and how to.

Speaker 5 49:53

If I'm not good enough, that's okay, get to work Right, and that's and that's what's made me proficient is. Rebecca kind of nailed it on the head when she said I'm a jack of all trades. I really feel like I am. I'm kind of proficient at everything. I don't know if I'm necessarily an expert at one thing or another, but I'm pretty good in any situation you put me in, because my dad taught me oh, you're sinking, learn how to swim, at least learn how to tread water in every situation. And so it doesn't matter what you do, it doesn't matter where you throw me in. I feel like I can get by, because nobody just like let me pass on things.

Speaker 5 50:28

And it's especially helps in sales, because this really is a job to where, if you fall short to clients, customers, they're going to let you know about it and either fire you or not take you over somebody else, and so it really kept me to go, when I would lose, you know, early in my career and still happens today, when I lose out on a listing presentation, to tie it all back to real estate since that's kind of why we're here I don't pout and whine about it. I get upset about it, but then I say, okay, where did I, where did I fall short? Oh, because of this. Okay, well then I need to work on this. You know all your listening presentation just wasn't as succinct and full as this other agent's. Okay, well, now I need to work on my listening presentation. Right, I get to work, I go back to the lab, I start working on it because I want to be. I want to be the very best you know, for talking about cartoons, right.

Speaker 5 51:29

Oh yeah, I kind of zhuzhed it up a little bit, but that's how I feel, right, that's what I want. I want to be on your listing presentations. I do, okay, and so here's the thing you should. There are so many people, rebecca included, who are like you should be one of those singing realtors online as you don't like them I I one time.

Speaker 5 51:42

Okay, I wouldn't be able to do it for myself, it's not my thing. I love everybody else who does it. There's a bunch of people out there who really put the effort in and who are great at it and they make fantastic content.

Speaker 3 51:54

I cannot be. You don't like it.

Speaker 5 51:56

No, that's not true.

Speaker 3 52:00

Then what's the division from you really liking a piece of content to then you doing a similar piece of content?

Speaker 5 52:07

Because it's not for me. Because it's not for me, I couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 52:12

Why? Because I don't have which. I get there's people who put out content that I can appreciate. But I'm like I wouldn't do that. Whoa, y'all are both talking at the same time.

Speaker 4 52:22

Hold on, this is going to happen. We're going to have to get used to this.

Speaker 1 52:27

Rebecca you go first. Sorry, no, I was going to say I get it. If it's not true to who you are and your brand, you can still appreciate something and it not be your thing. So I see people who put out they have different ways of speaking, they have different ways of presenting things and I'm like, hey, that looks good, that's cool for them. But if I were to try to emulate that same thing, it's not my vibe, it's not my brand and I think that's going to come through, because my heart isn't in that type of content. Does that make sense?

Speaker 5 52:58

A hundred percent, and that's exactly what it is. I want to win off of my merits for things. I don't want to have them choose me because I was the singing realtor like that doesn't feel good to me. For me, did you see?

Speaker 4 53:11

what I'm saying, ray, I don't know why this is like you're having a hard time with this yeah what's going on here bud?

Speaker 3 53:17

no, I just think it's interesting because you're so I understand it for the uh, the vast majority of people aren't extremely talented at singing and so they do the singing realtor thing and it's not that great. It's just kind of quirky, kind of fun, right, but when you have someone that was in an actual band, that is actually talented, it's hard. I'm just asking him what would have to switch. What is it that doesn't allow you to do it? And the reason why I'm asking is because I'm a singer and never sing in my content, ever oh, why aren't you a singing realtor?

Speaker 1 53:53

why don't you do that right?

Speaker 3 53:55

this is exactly what I'm saying. This is my question for me.

Speaker 2 54:01

I'm not the guest what it you?

Speaker 3 54:03

because for me I've never felt comfortable doing it in that context where I could sing in front of on stage, in front of an auditorium and feel fine. But my comfort level for singing to a camera is it's a very different comfort level for me, very different comfort level for me. So I don't know if I'm saying that that's not my style of content because I don't want to sing in front of my phone, or if I'm saying that's not my style of content because it really doesn't jive with anything else I'm doing, which I don't think it really would jive. But could I find a way to make it jive with the other pieces of content? Possibly, but why haven't I?

Speaker 4 54:45

And I think my issue is because I'm not actually comfortable. Have you thought about recording an album and sending it out?

Speaker 2 54:48

to your past guests as a gift. Who Matt the?

Speaker 1 54:52

sweet sweet tunes of Ray.

Speaker 5 54:54

That's a great idea.

Speaker 4 54:57

Here's my latest album.

Speaker 5 55:00

Ray's hit me up a couple times and been like yo dude, let's hop on a song man, I'll produce it and we'll just crush it.

Speaker 3 55:06

We could do a Christmas album.

Speaker 5 55:12

Ray, if you want to get up and do it with me at Rhymes, dude me and you, I'm down. It's real Christmas.

Speaker 3 55:16

Let's go. No, I'm only saying have you never sung?

Speaker 2 55:21

You did a reel that you sung right.

Speaker 5 55:26

Matt, I can sung and you did. You did a reel that you sung, right, matt? I can't remember what it was.

Speaker 3 55:29

What was it? Oh, it was for my dad's 70th birthday party.

Speaker 5 55:31

Okay, yeah, I remember seeing there.

Speaker 3 55:32

No, I think you did you.

Speaker 5 55:33

I think you did something else too, though, if you go way back on my instagram recently on your story there's a lot of videos of me singing.

Speaker 5 55:41

If you go way down, got it the feed, um, but I've been posting stories more often here and there, just because I just kind of want to get back into in enjoying it and that's for me. To answer your question, ray, where it comes for me is my musical side is really more for me at this point in a way, like it's. It's not and that's not to say I'm trying to keep it, or or Bogart or anything like that, but I just enjoy it kind of for me, um, and I don't want it to become like part of the shtick for my persona, not that.

Speaker 5 56:15

I'm saying other people do it as a shtick, but for me is how that would feel. Because that is something that was really artistic for me and was a huge part of my upbringing and helped me deal with a lot of things going on in my life and was kind of my safe space. I don't want to taint that by turning it into this thing for the masses you know, that's what for me, that's, that's more what it is.

Speaker 5 56:37

I don't mind saying in front of people I've seen in front of a lot of people. It's not a big deal for me, it's the thing of like, I don't want someone to take this as oh, look at, look at what he's doing, to try to be seen for that you see what I'm saying you don't want to peddle your art.

Speaker 3 56:52

Yes, that's not what I want it to be but at the same time you enjoy other people peddling theirs.

Speaker 5 56:57

I do yes, yeah, I do without judging.

Speaker 3 57:00

He doesn't judge you. No, not at all, because if that, brings, because that's the whole thing right.

Speaker 5 57:04

If that brings them happiness, then go for it. I, you know, and there's almost a part of me where I wish I could, but I just I can't, I cannot do it, because it's just that little part of me, it's like no, and I just can't.

Speaker 3 57:15

The only time I've used it is in the context of something funny. Yes, let me, let me, let me. I'll share this because I think this is the first time this will ever be heard on a podcast. Oh, it's the only.

Speaker 5 57:29

It's the only time I've ever done a uh, a music thing was uh me and uh halo guy and you guys matt, I guarantee you'll relate to this halo guy, you'd be master chief yeah, master chief okay, at least give him the respect to say well, I mean, most people have no idea who master chief.

Speaker 3 57:45

If I said master chief, people would be like who, what's he talking?

Speaker 5 57:48

okay, that's fair, it's the halo guy.

Speaker 3 57:49

All right, so this is see if y'all can hear it. Everyone does this in a bigger house. It's a pretty house. It's a pretty house 's. That's the only time, so bravo. So I got the idea. I walked into this new construction home and it was empty, and so naturally I just sang the halo song, because it's got great acoustics, naturally and that's what everyone does yeah, how many other like former singers or even 90s and two thousands gamer kids walk into a new construction house and it's like, oh, I'm like.

Speaker 1 58:56

I've never done that. I'll let you know. Am I even on?

Speaker 4 59:02

here. That doesn't sing.

Speaker 3 59:03

Oh you're a band now.

Speaker 1 59:04

Actually, Rick, you're out of the podcast. Matt's replacing you.

Speaker 5 59:09

You're actually the guest. If you can beat me in a race, Rick, you can keep your spot.

Speaker 4 59:18

We're doing it. When we come out of San Diego, we're doing it.

Speaker 5 59:21

Yeah, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 59:30

Give him some time.

Transition From Restaurant to Real Estate

Speaker 4 59:30

Oh, oh, that's so good, we have a couple months to train rick, yeah, but so real quick though. So, with matt's story, with everything that he's done and been through and all the different like phases and chapters, don't you? You see, with a lot of us in real estate, like that's what makes a lot of the good realtors great realtors is all of the different things they've done before, like, I don't know too many fantastic realtors who real estate is their first profession.

Speaker 1 59:53

Absolutely.

Speaker 4 59:53

You know, like all of that stuff that you've done between the firefighting and the singing and everything has kind of put you in a very unique place to to help a lot of people, and all of those experiences have made you way better than if you would have just done one career your whole life.

Speaker 5 1:00:09

Yeah, I think, um, really, what it helps me with most is just so. So I I am definitely a belly to belly person, a people person. That's where I do my best work. Uh, you know, the, the systems and everything is not my strong suit. My strong suit is, if I can get across a kitchen table from somebody, I got a pretty good chance to close that client, whether it be a listing or buying, whatever the case is.

Speaker 5 1:00:33

And one of the things before even all of that that we talked about was I was in the restaurant business. My first job was 13 years old, in a restaurant. I was in restaurant business for over 15 years and really what that teaches you is you don't know who's going to sit down at this table, but whoever it is, you better connect with them, you better make them happy and you better have them give you a big tip. Right, that's the whole point is more customer service. So after all that time of being in the restaurant business, it taught me to basically connect quickly with any, any type of personality, no matter who, no matter what, and of course, you're not going to connect with everybody, but I would at least know this type of person, who they are and how to deal with them.

Speaker 5 1:01:16

And that's helped me, I think, the most of my real estate career, because a lot of times with like online leads, you don't talk to. You meet people for the first time at the house, you know it's, it's, it can be a quick thing and you better get them to like you fast. So I just work with that is like, oh, who's this person? I listened to them, I meet them where they are and then I try to make that connection quick and I'm pretty decent at doing that. And so really to me, the restaurant time, the restaurant work, has been the thing that's helped me the most in this business. What was the restaurant you worked at first? The first restaurant was this little place called Benicia Coffee Company and one of my friends.

Speaker 3 1:01:49

A little town of Benicia.

Speaker 5 1:01:50

Yeah, one of my family friends owned it, so I was a breeze at 13. Very quickly learned that I hated it very much, because people are very particular about their coffee and if you don't do it the exact way they want it, you're reamed and they'll yell at you because it's 5 30 in the morning and they need a 13 year old kid. I hated it so, and this is why matt hates coffee.

Speaker 3 1:02:12

Oh my god, maybe that is the reason decades old counseling traumatized oh my god, he's coming on the show, but really this is counseling, oh my god, this is that therapy he was talking about before.

Speaker 5 1:02:27

Yeah, let's not talk about my dad almost dying in front of my eyes. Let's talk about my hatred for coffee.

Speaker 4 1:02:31

That's the real issue. That's where the trauma lies.

Speaker 5 1:02:34

My mom. I don't want to talk about my mom or my dad. I want to talk about coffee.

Speaker 1 1:02:37

That's my problem Coffee and D&D. It all started started back when I was 13.

Speaker 5 1:02:42

And people yelled at me. And then, quickly after that, I learned I still wanted to be in the restaurant business because the tips were really nice. I liked having that cash in my pocket. So at 14, I got my first job in a restaurant, where I was a busboy, and I learned the harder you work, the more money you make, the more tables you flip, you know, because there's people who just want to take a few, as little tables as possible during their shift. That's cool. Give them all to me. I'm going to be there for six hours. Make the most of it.

Speaker 5 1:03:09

Why not work hard? And again, that's another thing that's transpired transitioned me over to real estate is you were if you work hard, you'll make more money. I've always liked that. I the the thought of sitting in a cubicle and whether I work at a one or a 10, I'm going to get paid the same. That makes no sense to me. That makes no sense. What is my incentive to work hard, other than obviously be fired? But that makes no sense. I'd rather bust my ass and work way harder than everybody else and make more money. That just it's always connected with me. And so that's another thing where I kept wanting to try to find that in jobs is why I I, if I want to work harder, what is my incentive for doing that? And it's always just been sales in some, in some kind, some way.

Speaker 1 1:03:54

Yeah, did you get out of it Exactly what you put it.

Speaker 2 1:03:57

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:03:58

I worked at a Panera bread for like three months. They didn't pay me and I was like, hey guys, I haven't been paid.

Speaker 4 1:04:09

And then, as soon as I got my check, I never went back, was that it so? That was.

Speaker 1 1:04:11

That was my only restaurant experience yeah, but I did work in hospitality so that definitely helped me, like with the customer service side of things and learning how to deal with people yelling at you on a daily basis. So got a pretty thick skin from that.

Speaker 1 1:04:24

But just like like Matt said, it's tough to work next to people who are working at a one. You're working at a 10, and you're getting paid the same exact amount. It's like what is the point? I'd rather be in real estate, where you get out of it exactly what you put into it, which is kind of a double-edged sword, Because if you're not putting anything in, you're not going to get anything out of it.

Speaker 4 1:04:50

But the potential is just so much greater when you are working for yourself in this type of industry.

Speaker 1 1:04:53

Yeah right, where was your? Now I will say oh sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 3 1:04:55

No, no, what? What will you say?

Speaker 1 1:04:56

no, no, I was going to change the topic slightly, so I would like to hear about your restaurant.

Speaker 3 1:05:02

I was a bartender and a restaurant guy for a couple of different places, but Red Robin was probably the longest in how was that. I mean, I made a ton of money there.

Speaker 2 1:05:13

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:05:15

When I was the bartender there, I would take all the tables in the cocktail area, and usually there was one or two people that didn't show up, and so I'd take their section too.

Speaker 3 1:05:23

So I remember one Friday I was working 21 tables plus the bar, and it was packed out and yeah, and the little hostess is like almost crying because she was like I have too many people I can't send them on the, just send them in my section. She was like are you going to be okay? I was like, absolutely, because for me, you know, I had to make, I had to make the money. Yeah, as long as they had a great experience then it didn't really matter how many transactions you had at that time.

Speaker 3 1:05:52

It was the customer experience as long as they were fine. So I I had to manage it for a little bit, and teaching other people to do that was harder than doing it myself absolutely because you weren't taught it's an innate thing.

Speaker 5 1:05:59

Yeah, you either have it or you don't. That's how I feel about it at at least.

Speaker 3 1:06:02

Yeah, so anyway, you can change the subject now, Rebecca. Sorry.

Speaker 1 1:06:08

Well, I was just going to talk about Matt's restaurant experience and how it's helped him in real estate, aside from just the do more transactions, you make more money type of thing. But you would used to do like a lot of event planning or at least helping set up with events. So that's definitely helped you with doing your client events and you just recently did the Bay Area launch event and so a lot of your restaurant experience definitely came over with that. They planned this incredible event in the Bay Area. That just was phenomenal. I don't know if you guys saw any of it on social media, but Matt can obviously speak a little bit more to how that went.

Speaker 5 1:06:42

It was the craziest six weeks I've ever had in my life because we were planning on having at least a two-month window. That was kind of our plan is okay, we're going to have plenty of time, take this slow, make sure it's what we want it to be. And when we kind of pitched the idea to Real and they were sort of getting it set, they basically told us oh well, now we're going to really make it into almost like a national tour type thing and with our scheduling you now have six weeks to get it done.

Speaker 5 1:07:10

And we went okay, I guess, and so it was just. It was this whirlwind of planning and event planning and getting things and schedules and food and speakers, and figuring all the logistics of everything and luckily being because we did a lot of catering in one of the last restaurants, one of the bigger restaurants I was in, so catering for weddings and anniversaries and big parties like that came in clutch a little bit. But this was on a whole other level because you were tracking people's flights and hotel stays and planning out this very finite amount of time you have for each speaker, and when the food was going to show up and the venue needed you out at X amount of time, there was going to be a thousand dollars per hour added on top of it, and so we really had to cram as much as we could in this small amount of time and we are really, really proud about how that event turned out. It really, it really was what we set out for it to be.

Speaker 5 1:08:13

And there were so many people who still ask me today of like, when is your next one? When's the next one? We want to go to it, we want to be there, or some people who didn't get there and they had that FOMO and they're like, well, when are we going to get tickets? Can we sign up for it? Is there a newsletter we can get tracked up on? And we're like those are all really good ideas, we should do that. But yeah, it's again just going back to what I said earlier, is the restaurant experience really helps in so many ways and I think if I were president, okay, I would make the law that's now announcing his campaign.

Speaker 5 1:08:48

Oh yeah, I mean that's my kid, my candidacy. Yeah, everybody else is throwing their hat in the ring at this point why not me? Um, kind of what, uh, what south korea does, where they make people go and serve for I think it's one or two years or something like that. I would make people work in the restaurant industry for one year. That's the law, because I promise you civilization.

Speaker 1 1:09:12

They make people serve in the restaurant industry.

Speaker 5 1:09:15

No in the armed forces.

Speaker 1 1:09:16

You have to serve in the military, but I'm saying mine is probably the same thing.

Speaker 5 1:09:22

Yeah, mine would be the restaurant industry, because I guarantee you, civilization in this country would be better if everybody had to work one year in the restaurant industry, because people would go oh, is that what it's like when I get screamed at by this random person for no reason? That's a really shitty feeling. Maybe I shouldn't do that, and it'll just give everybody so much more awareness of others that exist in the world. And that's really the thing that restaurant business taught me and, rebecca, you're going to refute me on this but it helped me learn that I am not the main character In the world.

Speaker 3 1:09:57

Main character energy.

Speaker 5 1:09:59

Yeah, I have it in my life, but when it comes to other people, I'm not the main character.

Speaker 5 1:10:03

And again, that helps me in business with real estate, because when people are selling their house or buying a house, that's their story, that's they're the main character in this crazy time and I'm just there to help.

Speaker 5 1:10:16

So if I try to like act tough and I'm the expert and and I've sold this many homes and I've been in the business for this they don't give a shit about that. All they care about is how do I do this thing and how do I get there with the least amount of stress possible. That's my job. I'm the sidekick, right, I'm the one who just helps them through their journey to get to the end. And so that again taught me to me to check my ego at the door. I'm there to help them. I'm there as a service person to them to help them achieve what they've set out to do, and that has helped me more often than not, avoid confrontation or drama or unnecessary stress that I encountered with other realtors who just love to manufacture problems so they can be the hero of the transaction and save it from impending doom when there was nothing to worry about in the first place, but I digress.

Speaker 2 1:11:07

I don't know anyone like that.

Speaker 5 1:11:08

Yes, which is nice because I've gotten so many people who have after a transaction, has said to me that was like the most stress-free transaction I've ever been in other realtors. I'm like, yeah, cause it doesn't have to be hard. Things can come up but then you just communicate and talk it through and you can usually figure it out. Usually doesn't have to be crazy. Oh, we lost Rebecca.

Speaker 4 1:11:27

She's gone. She's like I'm out of here.

Speaker 5 1:11:29

She's gone.

Speaker 4 1:11:29

Yeah, you know, matt, I have uh long said the same thing that you should either have to do a uh an enlistment or you should work in the restaurant business before you're unleashed on the world, because I think either or is going to give you some really great perspective when you're dealing with other people.

Speaker 5 1:11:49

It does, absolutely does A hundred percent, even if not in real estate, just in general, just in general of how to treat other people in any situation.

Speaker 4 1:11:58

Yeah, no, when I was doing restaurants. I started restaurants in college and continued all the way through the first two years of real estate and having that experience just like you said, dealing with people relating to people it's huge and some people just do not have any empathy or compassion for others and you want a reality check. Restaurants will give it to you real quick.

Speaker 3 1:12:22

I agree. I mean, there's so much of that that equates to real estate, not only just the service aspect, but you are the value that you put in the marketplace. That's what your worth is. You can either be somebody that gets the $5 tip or somebody that gets the $500 tip. So how can you get the $500?

Speaker 4 1:12:41

What do you need to do different? Everybody has got the same tables, the same access to the same menu. Everyone has all of the same resources. There's a reason why one person walks out with two to three hundred dollars a night and the other one walks out with, you know, 50 bucks yeah, a couple of grand in my case I would you work.

Speaker 3 1:12:56

you work, uh, friday in the bar and you can make a grand easy, easy.

Speaker 4 1:13:01

Lunch is at Cheesecake Factory. If you open Cheesecake Factory three hours, you're walking out with like four or five bucks, just slinging coffee and cheesecake.

Speaker 3 1:13:10

It's crazy. I'm just picturing young Rebecca traveling North Korea signing up to serve.

Speaker 5 1:13:16

Okay, I said South Korea, I said the good one. Thank you, okay. North.

Speaker 3 1:13:19

Korea, young Rebecca traveling to South Korea signing up to serve, and then, all of a sudden, she realizes she's in the military.

Speaker 2 1:13:28

It's just.

Speaker 3 1:13:34

It's such a Larry David moment.

Speaker 1 1:13:47

Sorry guys, I'm having some technical difficulties on my end, so I don't know if this is delayed or not for y'all, or okay.

Speaker 3 1:13:50

so now we're good. No, it's still delayed a little bit apparently, but it still looks, it looked, it looks fine, so, and it sounds fine. It's just a little behind, so you have to start talking before you actually want to.

Speaker 1 1:14:01

Okay, so I'll just practice interrupting people.

Speaker 5 1:14:04

Great.

Speaker 1 1:14:07

You know what, matthew? You're giving me a lot of attitude in this last bit here. I don't appreciate it, you're out.

Speaker 5 1:14:16

You invited me on here. You knew it was going to happen.

Bay Area Boys Podcast Banter

Speaker 1 1:14:21

I have so many regrets. Two former droid users collide I figured we could start with a really low bar and then just keep going up from there.

Speaker 3 1:14:30

Yeah, there's nowhere to go but up from here. I think I agree.

Speaker 1 1:14:34

Exactly.

Speaker 4 1:14:37

In fairness, we don't know where we're going to put Matt in the slot right. We're recording these, but we don't know where we're going to put Matt in the slot right, so we're recording these, but we don't know where we're going to release them, so you may or may not be first.

Speaker 2 1:14:46

Now can I?

Speaker 1 1:14:46

address another thing.

Speaker 5 1:14:49

Can I address another thing that Rebecca brought up is the hair. Okay, it's the elephant in the room. Let's all be honest, okay, Can I? Tell you how much it boils my blood when everybody talks about good hair in this company for real, and everybody looks at Brad.

Speaker 5 1:15:03

McCallum every single freaking time and I want to get up and go. Hey, hello. He's not the only one in the room, and there's other people, too, on his own team that have great hair as well. That should be recognized, and I don't like how he's the first one. My goal 2023, end, end of 2023 is, for me, this is the real guy of real. I want it to be me.

Speaker 1 1:15:27

Okay, I do want to point out that I didn't say that. Matt has the best hair in real brokerage I only said that he has the tallest hair.

Speaker 4 1:15:35

Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 5 1:15:37

I don't think I do. There's a couple of boys in Canada who have taller hair than I do. Are they 6'4"? I think you have the tallest. No, but there you go, the tallest hair.

Speaker 1 1:15:49

Not everybody's perfect, I mean not like the most height of the hair itself, but Matt leans on his height way too much.

Speaker 3 1:15:59

I mean, if you got it flying.

Speaker 5 1:16:01

Hey, you know what that's called Darwinism. Okay, survival of the fittest, all right, sorry.

Speaker 4 1:16:06

If I was 6'4" I would do that I'm not the main character.

Speaker 1 1:16:09

Darwinism.

Speaker 2 1:16:10

I'm 6'4". Survival of the fittest, yeah.

Speaker 4 1:16:14

There's a time and place for everything, rebecca. This is not the time and place for to be the sidekick, like he's definitely, you know, trying to portray himself. He's the man, he's the guest, he's, he's, he's the guy, the man of the hour yeah, I gotta exude a little bit.

Speaker 5 1:16:26

You know character here, matt and his hair it should have been two separate. Like you should cut the camera off here matt and I should have a secondary camera here and for a whole nother screen we'll invite your hair back if you have a we could see more like the hair would be more pronounced, Like it kind of blends in with the background.

Speaker 3 1:16:43

I've been trying to work with him on this.

Speaker 1 1:16:45

Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:16:46

Ray, I don't know what to tell you, but I got a hair light right there. I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 3 1:16:49

It's not above you, though, it's behind you.

Speaker 5 1:16:51

Yeah, it is above me. It's a well way up there. You need to slightly behind me there's my hairline.

Speaker 3 1:17:04

Yeah, so it needs to be up and yes, right there.

Speaker 5 1:17:05

Yes, he's pointing up for all the audio listeners. Yeah, pointing up point up right now.

Speaker 1 1:17:07

I'm double pointing oh no we'll just give him a pair of lights. Can I get it from both angles?

Speaker 4 1:17:13

oh, maybe that's good going forward with this, like if we wanted to share a picture of matt. Like are we? Do we have a? Do we have a social media or a website for the podcast? Are we going to do that?

Speaker 3 1:17:23

We can use this old picture from the Silver Liner. That would be the best.

Speaker 5 1:17:29

Who is this guy? This guy's in our book.

Speaker 1 1:17:33

Half of your face is hidden by your hair.

Speaker 5 1:17:37

It's my design. It's very moody looking.

Speaker 3 1:17:40

It's very like Phantom of the Opera.

Speaker 4 1:17:42

Emo, for sure Are we starting a website for the podcast.

Speaker 3 1:17:46

I mean, I guess we should do something like that. Matt's going to write the jingle. We could even do it.

Speaker 4 1:17:55

We could do a poll who's got the best hair? And have Matt versus Brad.

Speaker 5 1:18:00

People are going to pick Brad though that's a popular content at that point right, people are going to pick him just for the name. Let's be honest. Let's be honest.

Speaker 4 1:18:06

Not necessarily everyone that listens to our podcast is going to know all of you guys.

Speaker 1 1:18:11

We can make it an America versus Canada thing.

Speaker 5 1:18:16

That's just what we need in this time of the world More division. That's just what we need in this time of the world More, division, more division.

Speaker 1 1:18:22

More division Forget collaboration.

Speaker 2 1:18:26

Speaking of Korea.

Speaker 1 1:18:35

Oh goodness, are we done with him? Well, is there anything that you wanted to share that you haven't already shared? We know that you're in this little small town, benicia, which is in the Bay Area. Is that where you still live? Nobody's heard of it.

Speaker 5 1:18:46

I'm born and raised. I've literally never lived in another town in my entire life.

Speaker 3 1:18:50

So you still live there now.

Speaker 5 1:18:52

I just bought this house here a few months ago.

Speaker 1 1:18:54

He knows the town like the back of his hand, back of my hand, baby. Where his hand back of my hand baby. And then Matt's also just recently started his own podcast, bay Area boys yeah, with my.

Speaker 5 1:19:12

Roland Roland Osage another.

Speaker 3 1:19:16

I saw the intro.

Speaker 5 1:19:17

It's great yeah, yeah, I started with my with my other Bay area, but down here rolling no stage. Also part of real brokerage, also a fantastic content creator. So we're we're teaming up, teaming up to make some more content together and we just recorded our first official one over the weekend and it was really fun and I can't wait to start sharing it with everybody else too. It's a more local podcast.

Speaker 1 1:19:41

Did your audio actually work that time?

Speaker 5 1:19:43

Our audio actually worked that time and, yes, it's definitely focused around the Bay Area. We really wanted to get hyperlocal with everything going on there. One because we just wanted to kind of be the news source for a lot of people and two because it's sort of just like when a YouTube channel does it and talks about their area sort of just like when a YouTube channel does it and talks about their area. It's the same kind of idea where we want people homebuyers, home sellers to start knowing who we are, to kind of see us as the experts of the area and just kind of start establishing ourselves as that. So if people do have questions about the Bay Area, about anything whether it doesn't have to be selling their house, it could be. We talked about restaurants, sports teams, new taxes, I mean everything like that that we kind of want to be that central source for all things bay area, when people think of the bay area or sources to go to for it I like it, youtube or podcast uh, both, it's good.

Speaker 5 1:20:33

We're going to put it on. We're going to put the short form on instagram, because it's it's recorded video as well, and then we're going to have the long form on youtube. We'll also probably upload the audio as a podcast as well.

Speaker 3 1:20:43

So your video first Correct. Okay, all right, cool, I like it.

Speaker 5 1:20:48

Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm really stoked about it. It's fun. We keep it very much like this. It's light, it's entertaining. We still talk about who tangents off into something else because I wanted to kind of have that free form and entertainment angle for it as well. Does your logo say babes? What's that, Rebecca?

Speaker 1 1:21:08

I said I like things that are more structured.

Speaker 5 1:21:11

Oh, then you should not have, yeah, like my. Oh, it's quite structured today. Yeah, it's a whole thing, and our yeah, it's Bay Area. It could be babes. No, it needs a whole thing.

Speaker 3 1:21:20

And yeah, it's Bay Area. It could be Babs. No, it needs to be Babes. Bay Area Boys Edutainment.

Speaker 1 1:21:24

Boys with a Z Ooh, babes, babes, babes would be funny, though Babes, babes is funny, babes is like Bay Area Babes.

Speaker 5 1:21:44

Can't you just picture a lady named Babes, right now in a muumuu holding her little white dog, coming out of her house, going in and yelling at Matt when she tries to get her coffee. And it's not right, she would too.

Speaker 1 1:21:48

Absolutely, that's the type of woman who would do it. Can you imagine, though? People sign in, they're thinking you know to the Bay Area Babes. They're thinking they're going to get some chicks talking about the Bay Area, and then they get Matt and Roland.

Speaker 3 1:21:58

It's just the babes podcast and it's the Bay Area boys edutainment.

Speaker 5 1:22:04

I feel like our viewer engagement would be 100% three seconds in and then there would be a steep drop right after that A cliff of a drop, of a fall off, right after Like who are these two idiots? These are, these are very babes.

Speaker 3 1:22:18

And then comment Perfect, yeah, I'm literally going to start an account just to comment down on every one of your shows. And then his account is going to be the real yeah.

Speaker 5 1:22:31

We're the babes Dude.

Speaker 3 1:22:33

The real babes the dot real dot babes underscore. Aren't you glad you started your podcast before you came and got this help. Bay Area Boys is clever, though.

Speaker 4 1:22:45

Oh sorry.

Speaker 3 1:22:45

What did you say, Rick? Sorry, I stepped over.

Speaker 4 1:22:47

I was just saying isn't Matt glad that he started his podcast before he came on here to get all of this constructive help?

Speaker 3 1:22:53

Oh, we have so many ideas for you.

Speaker 1 1:22:54

Right.

Speaker 3 1:22:55

Yeah, tell you in a workshop.

Speaker 1 1:22:56

And and babes could be B-A-Y-B-E-Z. Because, babes Think about it, you know that works.

Speaker 5 1:23:07

I'm thinking about it, I am thinking.

Speaker 1 1:23:11

You're loving it, aren't you?

Speaker 5 1:23:16

Well, tbd, tbd, tbd.

Speaker 1 1:23:18

It's fine. I'll create some artwork for it.

Speaker 5 1:23:21

Send it your way, please do?

Speaker 3 1:23:22

I would love to see that I would love to see this. Actually, You're just giving yourself more work.

Speaker 1 1:23:27

It's going to be amazing.

Speaker 3 1:23:29

It took her two weeks to send a photo of herself.

Speaker 1 1:23:32

Okay, I just took the photos. What was it? Monday I sent you what Like 10 photos. I'm like I hope one of these works. Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 3 1:23:42

We'll see you said they were good, it'll work, it'll work, it was good it's fine after all the editing, it was great you can do anything with AI you have photoshop right yeah well, matt.

Speaker 1 1:24:00

Thank you so much for coming on. This has been a lot of fun yeah, it's never come back we do have that wonderful hate chat we have a.

Speaker 3 1:24:13

We have a hate chat group and it's uh, we do.

Speaker 5 1:24:15

I love that group yeah, I bet you do all of favorite memes.

Speaker 1 1:24:20

It's a we hate Matt chat. The official name is Matt is part of the chat, just so everyone knows.

Speaker 3 1:24:27

He is part of it, but the official name is Matt, has an iPhone.

Speaker 1 1:24:29

To his face.

Speaker 5 1:24:31

Which happened months ago at this point, but it's still keeping it, though I love it Going strong.

Speaker 1 1:24:35

It's still relevant. You do still have an iPhone.

Speaker 5 1:24:38

It is truthful. It is truthful, nothing else and it's not.

Speaker 3 1:24:41

Instead of doing a text-based chat in iMessage, it's on instagram. So there you go, which a droid could be in and not a green bubble.

Speaker 5 1:24:53

But that's beside the point yeah, it's a real wild premise, but I'm here for it, so I like the unhingedness of it.

Speaker 2 1:24:58

We're getting a little crazy, but thanks for joining us on our first.

Speaker 5 1:25:06

Absolutely. When Rebecca invited me, I jumped at the chance, wasn't a moment's hesitation, I said I'm in, let's do. It Sounds like a great time with some great people. I cannot wait to see what you guys turn this into and grow it into and I can come back at any time. If you need to fill a spot I can't imagine you'd need to because you're gonna have some great people on there, but I'm I'm always down to clown, so anytime you guys need me, you call me and I'll be there I'll have to see next time yeah, okay, and we'll have brad pitt on the next time yeah, we'll get brad pitt on there and then you can do your impression of him for him.

Speaker 5 1:25:40

He'd hire me on spot, he'd be like you want to take over for me. It would be immediate, like he would just want me to be his new brad pitt persona you are taller than him, so he would probably really appreciate that.

Speaker 1 1:25:53

I'd be like wow, brad, how'd you get so tall?

Speaker 3 1:25:59

that's not even close to of his impersonation of Brad Pitt. That's perfect.

Speaker 1 1:26:04

I do great Matt Petullo impressions. They're always spot on.

Speaker 4 1:26:09

It's Matt Petullo doing Brad Pitt doing the Fonz.

Speaker 5 1:26:12

Yes, that's what it is. Yeah, it's very layered. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 1:26:17

Most of my impressions are layered, like my Seinfeld impression, amazingfeld impression amazing.

Speaker 3 1:26:22

Oh well, you can't just leave it there do it I have to compose myself.

Speaker 1 1:26:31

Okay, matt, you can't give me that look, because matt's heard this. Is this an actual, like you like?

Speaker 3 1:26:36

this is you're not elaine this is your seinfeld it's my seinfeld.

Speaker 1 1:26:40

yeah, yeah, Jerry Seinfeld. What's the deal with that? I couldn't finish it Again. My impressions are amazing.

Speaker 4 1:26:54

And that's our show Can you.

Speaker 3 1:26:57

No, no, no. Just say it one more time. I want to get a real clear audio on it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:27:01

Yeah, okay, let me get into character. What's the deal with that All?

Speaker 5 1:27:19

right. Thanks everybody for joining.

Speaker 1 1:27:22

And that's our ad for the show Right. Actually, can that just be our intro?

Speaker 4 1:27:30

I don't think we can afford it.

Speaker 1 1:27:31

Okay, minus the Seinfeld music.

Speaker 3 1:27:33

I'm sure there's some royalties on that.

Speaker 1 1:27:37

This is fun guys.

Speaker 4 1:27:39

If all the episodes are as fun as this one, we're going to be fine.

Speaker 1 1:27:43

I had coffee right before we started, so that was guaranteed to make sure coffee and energy drinks.

Speaker 3 1:27:50

Not saying you're boring man, we're just.

Entertaining Banter With Talented Guest

Speaker 5 1:27:53

We're just saying that we thought it was good oh, okay, cool, okay, I got word there for a second there my wife and I were out on a date when we were first married.

Speaker 3 1:28:03

Actually, it was a function. And she said man, I'm glad all these other people are here, or I'd be asleep.

Speaker 2 1:28:11

Oh.

Speaker 1 1:28:13

Thanks. You're calling the love, aren't you?

Speaker 3 1:28:14

She meant she was very comfortable, but definitely didn't come across that.

Speaker 5 1:28:19

Sorry 17 years later still here.

Speaker 3 1:28:25

Hey, there you go, like this. She falls asleep because, you're so entertaining yeah, obviously let's get that voice. Puts her right out there you go.

Speaker 1 1:28:37

That's what. It is all right, matt, we're gonna let you go.

Speaker 3 1:28:38

All right, guys. Thank you again for having me. I really we're going to let you go.

Speaker 5 1:28:40

All right, guys. Thank you again for having me. I really appreciate it Seriously thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 1:28:43

You're a wildly talented dude that I had no idea I have to stuff that you.

Speaker 2 1:28:48

Thanks guys, I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 1:28:50

The intro music Matt.

Speaker 5 1:28:51

Yeah, the jingle. Sure, I thought we were shopping something up for you guys.

Speaker 1 1:28:56

We will never get that from him. Never get that from him.

Speaker 3 1:29:02

It's never going to happen unless you pay the man he would like die before he makes a jingle for us. Matt, you'll get exposure. Oh yes, artists love to hear.

Speaker 5 1:29:08

Great yeah free exposure dude. I'm like oh yeah, I haven't heard that a thousand times in my music career. All right, you guys, see you later bye, matt.