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Tim Macy | The Art of Tall Tales, VR Adventures, and Thriving in Chaos

Rick Gonzalez, Rebekah Daniels & Ray Ellen

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Ever fabricated a wild tale just to see how far it could go? Tim Macy joins us to recount his legendary yet entirely fictional shark attack story, a yarn spun back in high school that took on a life of its own. This episode is a ride filled with unexpected stories, travel quirks reminiscent of a Louis CK routine, and even a humorous look at supposed pirate settlements in Arkansas. With a lively exchange of anecdotes, we guarantee laughter and camaraderie, all while reflecting on how storytelling shapes our identities and relationships.

Have you ever wondered about the art of embellishment in storytelling, or how virtual reality is reshaping our experiences? We unravel these topics as we debate the pros and cons of tall tales, particularly around military experiences and the concept of "stolen valor." The conversation hilariously transitions into the world of VR gaming, where we share our excitement for immersive experiences like VR paintball and Disney's virtual reality setups. Get ready for a mix of nostalgia and futuristic wonder as we explore the potential of interactive entertainment.

Do you thrive in chaos, or do you need structure to succeed? Listen in as Tim talks about his knack for decision-making on the fly and how his wife's organizational skills keep their business grounded. We touch on generational challenges with technology, pondering how older generations grapple with innovations like AI. As we wrap up, we tease our next mystery guest and revisit fond memories of our podcast's origins. Join us for an episode brimming with humor, insight, and the enduring bonds that have brought us here.

Speaker 1:

Having this interaction with a shark and it swam at me and I hit the shark, but it still like scraped all the stuff on my forehead. I've always been pretty good at uh, having good perspective and like seeing the big picture, and this tiny percent of people made a career out of it, and this larger percent of people left with some brain damage and some good stories.

Speaker 3:

What is up everybody? How was the flight man?

Speaker 2:

It was good. I literally just got out of the shower.

Speaker 3:

We're so glad you put a shirt on.

Speaker 2:

That's how we're cutting it close.

Speaker 4:

Did you even wash your face Because your beard doesn't look like wet what?

Speaker 2:

I was like where is she going with this?

Speaker 4:

If you took a shower, wouldn't it?

Speaker 2:

Dry.

Speaker 3:

it is what you do Do you not dry your hair when you get out of the shower? Max?

Speaker 4:

It takes a long time. How long does your mustache take to dry? How long? I mean at least two days, All right.

Speaker 2:

So yes, just getting in. My flight did get delayed, but we made it Again, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Well, I figured, because I saw that you had. You're like oh, I just landed and I'm like. I feel like that's a little bit later than expected. Yeah, it was, that's been brutal.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well going. I sat on the tarmac for a total of an hour. We sat there for 30 minutes one flight, 30 minutes, another flight. It was beautiful weather, absolutely no reason. We just sat there. So, um, but it reminds me of that bit louis ck used to do about how everything's great, no one's happy, are we? Oh yeah, has it been canceled sufficiently?

Speaker 4:

I don't know. He was canceled, like so many years ago.

Speaker 3:

I didn't know if he like had gotten redemption or not? Everyone's forgotten about that.

Speaker 4:

Not anymore. I brought it back.

Speaker 2:

Brought it back up. Anyway, he does this bit about how everything's great and no one's happy because people get off a flight and it's like they've gone across the US. It was a terrible flight, never mind that they just sat in the chair flying through the air getting to their destination.

Speaker 4:

They didn't get dysentery while they were doing that. I was just about to say the same thing.

Speaker 3:

Nobody died of dysentery, so we're all good. We're all good.

Speaker 4:

Listen, I did the Oregon Trail. I know what it's like.

Speaker 3:

And you survived.

Speaker 4:

And I survived.

Speaker 3:

And we're happy about that. Bex, we are so glad to have you here. Dysentery free.

Speaker 2:

Speaking of it has nothing to do with dysentery, but I'm very intrigued by the guest.

Speaker 4:

Is their name dysentery?

Speaker 3:

What did they put as their Dolphin trainer?

Speaker 4:

Oh, interesting.

Speaker 3:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 4:

Are they involved with the Miami?

Speaker 3:

Dolphins, it's like the game Clue, right? You guys get to ask questions.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, now I'm curious. I feel like if they put like Cat Herder, I would think they were a real estate coach of some sort, but maybe that's kind of like Dolphin Trainer as well, like let's see if we can. Dolphins are mean, though Like have you guys ever had like face-to-face interaction with dolphins.

Speaker 3:

I have what dolphins, have you interacted? With I swear to God if you see sharks and dolphins, go towards the sharks.

Speaker 2:

What Florida dolphins are different than the Washington dolphins?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, no, don't believe all the hype, I swam with the dolphins.

Speaker 3:

They were thinking about how to kill you they just didn't act on it.

Speaker 4:

They're terrible. I summon all of the animals like a Disney princess.

Speaker 3:

This is what happens when we don't do a show for a few weeks.

Speaker 4:

How do I talk? I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I'm sitting here with all of my drinks and every time I pick one up and put it down it's like super loud. I'm like why is everything in my office so?

Speaker 2:

loud, get that hot mic. Who did the guest today? The first guest is me, yay.

Speaker 3:

Second guest is Bex, I think. Okay. So our guest today is I have no idea about the dolphin trainer bit. Maybe that's just to throw us off, because it threw me off, I don't know about the dolphin trainer. That's awesome, and here's the thing. We're going to cut this short because I just want to get into it, but here's what. Here's what they said. Uh, for me to use as a teaser, although I think this may tip ray off. Uh, they wanted us to know that they are an expert in early arkansas pirate settlements, what? So, without further ado, here's our guest, mr Tim Macy.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Tim Macy. Oh, my God yeah early pirate settlements in Arkansas.

Speaker 1:

This guy.

Speaker 4:

That's like so far inland.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, see, not a lot of people know this, but see they initially settled in Kansas, but then they didn't like it in Kansas, so they moved north and settled over Kansas.

Speaker 2:

This is ridiculous. It's his joke.

Speaker 4:

I don't claim it.

Speaker 2:

I feel like Tim is making Wait. Start the show, tim.

Speaker 4:

It's like I'm a dolphin trainer and I deal out lies.

Speaker 3:

I didn't even see it coming either. I was like wait, did they really do that?

Speaker 2:

I happen to know a lot about this and he has it out for sharks. I can tell you that.

Speaker 1:

What was funny was Rick says hey, can you give me some interesting facts about you that people won't know?

Speaker 2:

And I'm like Ray knows everything. There's very little you can say about the Tim Macy that I wouldn't know.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I'm giving Ray my life story three times.

Speaker 2:

I'm a big fan of the Tim Macy show.

Speaker 3:

That's why he's going through a resurgence.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Speaking of Tim bringing it back.

Speaker 1:

We got some good guests, we've had some good interviews and you know, I think, like you guys know, doing a podcast is, I think, it's about having fun first. So making sure you're having fun with what you're doing and I'm having a ton of fun with the people we've been interviewing.

Speaker 2:

And so, yeah, I think it's going to go all right. So why did you let it die the first time?

Speaker 4:

The hard-hitting questions.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's grill the Tim.

Speaker 1:

It's like my pet rabbit. When I was in high school I was like I want a rabbit, you know, and I got a rabbit and we got the whole enclosure and all that stuff and then kind of forgot about it, went to college and left it with my parents, like I'm really great at starting things and letting them die.

Speaker 4:

That's a horrible story. It's my specialty. Do you have ADHD, Tim?

Speaker 1:

There's literally a squirrel outside my window. I'm not kidding you Right now. Right now at this moment. Yes, yes, I do.

Speaker 4:

That's the answer we needed did the rabbit make it?

Speaker 3:

uh, no rick.

Speaker 2:

Rick needs the end of the story his parents were like you know what tim's not taking care of it.

Speaker 1:

Neither are we oh, I mean connecticut. It gets cold in the winter. You know, rabbits do not a great rabbit most people think you're from texas tim but that is a lie. No, I am originally from New England and then I was a transplant in Texas. I was stationed down here for a little while. That's where the dolphin trainer thing came from, Because when you're in the Air Force and people ask you what you did, you have to make up some random thing. Like you a pilot? No, no, I'm a dolphin trainer.

Speaker 3:

I used to tell him I played the triangle in the Navy band.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, which is an important role Timings I used to tell them I played the triangle in the Navy band?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's amazing. Which is an important role.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, timings are everything Okay. So when you say that you had to tell people that you were something other than being in the military, was this just because you didn't want to tell people you were in the military? The military said you can't actually reveal your real role.

Speaker 1:

No, I didn't, I didn't do anything.

Speaker 4:

That cool Tim didn't have one of those roles.

Speaker 1:

They always tell you make sure you don't tell people what you do. I was kind of following the rules, but mostly just being an idiot.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know that was a real thing.

Speaker 3:

You didn't know. Opsec was a real thing.

Speaker 2:

Everyone that I know that's in the military. I know they're in the military, I'm assuming.

Speaker 3:

You probably don't know exactly what they do, where they do it and when they do it. That's true.

Speaker 1:

You shouldn't anyways.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

If you do, they have very poor ops.

Speaker 4:

They're going to get fired.

Speaker 1:

They're like yeah, dude. I was in Afghanistan last week and this guy like, yeah, no.

Speaker 3:

We're deploying on the 10th and we're going. Yeah, it's not going to go well.

Speaker 4:

Well then you know that actually they didn't do any of those things.

Speaker 2:

They're just telling you fake things yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's also a good way to pick up on the stolen valor.

Speaker 2:

What an interesting concept. Does that kind?

Speaker 1:

of stuff. Bug you, tim. Personally, I don't really care If somebody has something going on in their life that they have to make up these things in their head. I don't know. A person's got to be in a weird place. I don't really care that much, but I do understand my fellow service members who get pretty fired up about it. I get where they're coming from.

Speaker 4:

Do you feel like that's something that has become more common recently with social media, or are we just like more aware of it now because of social media?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, that's been around forever. You like more aware of it now because of social media. Yeah, oh, that's been around forever. You know people telling crazy world war ii stories that they didn't actually take part in, like that's, yeah, I feel like that's been around forever. It's just a lot easier to call people out now gotcha.

Speaker 4:

so what is it about men who, like, feel this need to tell fish stories about men? Oh men, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because women never lie.

Speaker 4:

No, I mean, how many women do you see getting caught with stolen valor and be like? You know, I did this war.

Speaker 2:

Well, it may not be stolen, valor, but you're showing up without a bunch of filters that you once had. You could say that's a bit of a fish tale. Did you hear that noise?

Speaker 1:

That was all of our female viewers, just turning it off I think the military is an interesting thing, like I think, um, you know, there's there's a part of the population that grows up reading books about the military and reading about special operations and you know, they get very enthralled in it and then they don't really have what it takes to participate, but they love it and I think that's how they end up, you know, wearing a uniform with a bunch of crazy ribbons on it.

Speaker 2:

I mean that was part of the fun of the army surplus story back in the day yeah, I don't know the cool stuff. You know it still is. It was like, that's why paintball is such a big day.

Speaker 3:

Have you seen some of of these guys on these TikTok videos? Yeah, airsoft, yeah they are hardcore.

Speaker 2:

Have you seen the new virtual reality versions of this? It's funny. So you know how paintball. They're in an arena, right, and they have all these inflatable things around them and you have the paintballers start at one side and another paintball group starts at the other side. Picture that scenario Indoors side, and another paintball group starts the other side. Picture that scenario indoors. Everybody's wearing goggles and there's nothing in the middle of them. Okay, so they see it. I'm gonna see if I can find a clip of this are they just like?

Speaker 2:

they see it in the virtual reality. They see the obstacles and they see what they're hiding behind and you know shooting around all that kind of stuff. But all the spectators just see people acting like there's stuff in the middle.

Speaker 1:

It is crazy looking I have a clip like I just did this. In switzerland they have one of those places. You did this, yeah, and I you know it's supposed to rain that day, so we brought the family over there and I mean it was hilarious because I'm like ducking behind a wall that's not there like jumping around, trying to like peek around the thing and smash my eight-year-old in the head with the. No, I mean, just that's amazing for the game, for the game.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, for the memories, yeah, it's always friendly competition, but uh.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 4:

I want to figure out how to put one in my house so are you like actually you're moving around that room thinking that you're hiding obstacles, or you have like a little box area, like a treadmill that you're?

Speaker 1:

no, no you're moving around a room and there are walls in front of you that you can hide behind, you can come out of and like walls to go in. That aren't actually there.

Speaker 3:

It's interesting, it's just a big empty room multiplayer vr game. So when? So when I play Oculus here in my house like the tracking on it is glitchy as hell. How do they manage to get that many people in one big open space and the tracking is accurate enough where you can play a game? That's crazy.

Speaker 4:

They have better technology than what you have at your house. Apparently, this is Zucks.

Speaker 3:

Zucks made my thing. I mean, come on, well, did you guys ever do the?

Speaker 1:

Void, when the Void was a thing Mm-mm.

Speaker 4:

So it was at a couple locations.

Speaker 1:

And you know me, I always go to Disney World and they had one there and I may have gone a couple times. I'm a weird Disney adult. I don't know if that's a topic, but anyways. Um, but that was full-on suit you would wear in interactive rooms and so like I could touch r2d2 and press buttons on them and like, shoot stormtroopers out the window. But they had built this whole environment and then in vr you interacted with it.

Speaker 4:

It was ridiculous I think I may have done. I don't remember wearing like a full suit.

Speaker 1:

It was like a big vest.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I wish that that was a longer experience. It was definitely kind of cool. Downtown Disney in the Orlando area they started off doing a lot of the VR stuff. That was really really cool. I really enjoyed it, but the lines were always super long.

Speaker 1:

Way better than whatever Rick's got in his living room.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, it were always super long Way better than whatever Rick's got in his living room. Oh yeah, it's on another level.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to find. I found one picture. It's a black and white room that these people are in. I'm going to see if I can find the video of it, but it's pretty hilarious looking, especially if you start to put it to other music. I'm sure it's going to be a meme pretty soon. I'm going pretty soon.

Speaker 1:

Like you know, I'm gonna peruse my photo right here I got you up on text, so I may just be able to text it to you oh yeah, that'll work so you said you were gonna put one of these in your house.

Speaker 2:

How much space do you need, tim? Have you actually researched it and looked into it, or is this just the one day?

Speaker 1:

it's kind of like my podcast, like I'm gonna get a new toy and then I'm gonna research it, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna build a second structure in my backyard, I'm gonna install it, I'm gonna play it four times and it's just gonna sit there I found a picture of the room, but it's.

Speaker 2:

That's all I got so far.

Speaker 1:

So ray, send me a text you have my phone number no, I know, but I need it to pop up on my laptop so I can okay, can someone explain to me?

Speaker 4:

I know this is like off topic, but like I'm new to the apple products and I don't understand why none of my contacts come over onto my Mac screen, oh, you have to put it in your cloud, listen we can do tech help later, okay, oh, we don't want to do that on the podcast.

Speaker 3:

Let's not use the podcast. I'm cheap. Make that the most interactive content. We can do this next part during the 30-minute break.

Speaker 1:

I'm here for it. Interactive content we can do some export during the 30 minute break. I'm I'm here for it. You guys know samir the the one real mortgage guy. Oh, mine did not look that cool that's the.

Speaker 2:

This is what I'm saying. This is the room it's a black and white room you have these guys with the goggles on. I wish I could read what their goggles said, so maybe I can find the actual thing. They have a backpack and like a blaster of some sort and, and this is their arena that they play in.

Speaker 2:

It's like a paintball arena, except there's nothing in the middle. So they're trying to figure out how to do almost like a holographic overlay so that as people watch it they could kind of see around stuff. But they haven't quite. We're not there yet.

Speaker 1:

Well, they have the screens where you can see what they're seeing on there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can put them on the screen, but the real experience is watching these people run around and like there's nothing there I do that with with my, my wife when she does, uh, what is the saber?

Speaker 3:

oh, the lightsaber music game, yeah I'll put it up on the big screen behind her and me and olivia just sit there and giggle because she looks ridiculous doing it. Is she good? Giggle because she's like ridiculous doing it. Is she good in it? Yes, she's. She is pretty good, Better than me.

Speaker 2:

I'm just so into this virtual reality. Now there's there's meat spaces that have virtual reality rooms around the country now these are in.

Speaker 4:

these are in London. Oh, I'm like imagining a meat locker.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God Not that kind of meat, jeez All right Tim.

Speaker 4:

What were the decisions in your life that led to you becoming a Disney adult?

Speaker 2:

That is a good question.

Speaker 1:

Just like grab the shovel, start digging.

Speaker 2:

So Pull his heart out and show it to him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. So I don't know Like. I grew up boxing my whole life, so my whole life revolved around sports as a kid. Okay, every day I'd go to the boxing gym and then, if we had baseball season, I play baseball after school. Like all my life was a sports. And two times, I think, or three times that we went to disney world and it was like holy crap, like this is fun. So it was like holy crap, like this is fun. So it was like this memory for me as a kid.

Speaker 1:

And then my dad had a troubled, interesting life and I had an interesting relationship with him, but he always told me that his favorite memory in life was pulling up to Disney World and us looking out the window and just being like so excited to be there. He told me that was my favorite memory when he was. He passed away 2016, right after I got married to my wife. Um, we didn't have any money. I don't know like how we did this, but I had this big thing. I wanted to bring my dad and like our whole family, back to disney world because I knew that was always his favorite thing. So we took the whole family like my, my parents, her parents. We had one nephew in the mix, but it's almost like a grown-up trip down and we did that and then after then it was just like I don't know it's like been our thing but go to disney world didn't you propose there I didn't.

Speaker 1:

You know what was. Funny too was I thought that was like an original idea, like, like I didn't, I didn't one, we were, we were 20, what was?

Speaker 1:

your idea, the jumbotron of the game I was 21 when I asked my wife to marry me, so like we didn't have friends that had gotten married, you know, we didn't have much to go off of. And I'm like man, we're going to disney world. Why don't I pop the question there in front of the castle? How great will that be? So we do it, and it's great, and we did it like at the end of the night the park was closed and I snuck in. Everybody's walking out and we're walking down to the castle. It starts raining. Right, I should have canceled the thing and I'm like all right, come on down on one day, pop the. Now the reigning becomes romantic instead of annoying, and I'm like dude, I am the most original human in the world.

Speaker 1:

And then two days later we're at the park and you know, take a picture from the castle and I see like four people propose. I'm like what the hell? That's amazing.

Speaker 4:

But it wasn't in the rain. It wasn't in the rain. You got them there. That's where I thought the story was going.

Speaker 3:

I thought you looked up and you saw like two other couples getting engaged. I was so annoyed.

Speaker 1:

I had two days where I felt like I had pulled off something really original and those were a great two days Shouldn't have gone back Best two days of his life, best two days.

Speaker 2:

Downhill from there and then you got bitten in the head by a shark. I don't want to talk about that.

Speaker 4:

Wait, did that actually happen?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if you've ever noticed I've got this scar. Can you see it? Now it goes from here and it kind of goes up the hairline here. I've had some good surgery to clean it up, but it's still in the eyebrow. That's why the eyebrow does the thing that's why the eyebrow does the thing. Yeah, yeah, oh, that's why. That's why people call him jaws.

Speaker 1:

It's always because I'm always yapping, but you know, I don't know if any of this is real I mean obviously the scar is real, but the two of you are liars well, I've told brad I like talking about it and he always brings it up. I'm like dude. It's a traumatic experience for my childhood, you know.

Speaker 2:

Rebecca doesn't know whether she should I don't know yeah, no one knows okay.

Speaker 1:

So I want to hear the story, even if it is traumatic but if you really don't want, to talk about it, then you should have put that on the list of things that you get out of jail. Free card like somebody's like.

Speaker 4:

I had a traumatic experience talking about it we talk about anything and everything here not care about your trauma.

Speaker 3:

She's gonna dive in at all even more.

Speaker 4:

This is your last chance.

Speaker 1:

You can say okay, all right, all right, no, no, this is real random.

Speaker 1:

I was as a freshman in high school and I I was going to this new school. So like I had all my friends in middle school and then I like went my freshman year to this, to this new school, and like I wasn't doing well, like I never did well in any of my classes, and I had this. I had this English class with this English teacher and you know like when you're looking back, I got the teachers that you really hated and now you're an adult, you're like they were probably really nice humans. I was just a little prick right, like that's how I think back. I think you know Ms Pacheco, I think was like a really great person. I just couldn't schmooze her and you know, never did my homework, all that other fun stuff. So anyways, I'm failing this class or I got a d in it or something. It's not good.

Speaker 1:

And I gotta write a personal narrative. That's like my final assignment of of the year, the one thing I have to ace to like try to pass this class. So I write this story about being at my grandparents house in pensacola and swimming out into the water by myself on a on a cool morning and, uh, having this interaction with a shark and it swam at me and I hit the shark but it still like scraped all the stuff on my forehead and then I had this surgery and everything and like I'll never forget it changed my life and uh, and so I had this like long hair thing going on when I was in high school and so I'm like, hey, I need help with my thing, because you know, you got to stay after class to schmooze to try to get a better grade, and so we're going through the paper. It's like, tim, I was looking for a personal narrative Like this is a really great story.

Speaker 1:

You told a great story, but you know, I want you to tell something that happened to you. And then I you know I want you to tell something that happened to you and then I just pulled my hair back and at the time the scar was like way worse. She goes a boom, done right. And so I I lied once, like I lied one time to my teacher to pass a class. But what happened was I just kept finding myself in this predicament every year of getting a bad grade and needing to pull something out to get a good grade. And so I used that in my freshman year I like made a video about it. My junior year it was like my senior thesis, and then I get to college this is is amazing.

Speaker 4:

He proposed to his wife.

Speaker 1:

What's funny is I would tell the story Now. Everybody knew the story and most of the people I was friends with just knew that I got bit in the head by a shark.

Speaker 4:

Oh wait, they still thought I was real.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, a thousand percent, and so.

Speaker 4:

I would be at a party.

Speaker 1:

It'd be like 2 am, everybody's drinking and so I would be at a party. It'd be like 2 am, everybody's drinking and they're just enthralled. Because I got pretty good at telling the story Like I would have. The room would be silent. They'd be listening about how I turned and saw the shark. Again. It reappeared and as it swam at me, I didn't know what to do. So my instinct was to try to punch it on the nose, and I remember not wanting to pee myself because this shark would smell it like I had very detailed, very detailed the story was, but then there would always be one person that wasn't a complete idiot and they'd be like I don't believe you, total crap.

Speaker 1:

And so I would call my mom. My mother is a saint this is amazing, it'd be like one, two in the morning, you know, know, landline.

Speaker 1:

She'd pick up the phone. She's sleeping. She's like hello, I'm like mom, it's me, I'm okay. She's like oh, tim, okay, thank you, what's up? I'd be like hey, I'm hanging out with my friends and they want to know what happened in my head, honey, and they hang up. Everybody's like oh, my god, I told you it was true, so my mom was in on it and uh, that just kept the story going for years.

Speaker 1:

The one podcast where tim macy comes clean this was, but I'm at a point in my life where I'm ready to come clean, you know, okay, so we're really glad that we could be the place of that breaking news, yeah.

Speaker 3:

For real, the truth, right, the truth, so comfortable here.

Speaker 1:

Now I'm thinking about all the people that don't know. It's not true.

Speaker 3:

So is there any reference to the show they have?

Speaker 2:

to actually listen to the show though, tim, so you're probably safe.

Speaker 4:

I already know what the thumbnail is going to be.

Speaker 1:

It's like mine and nobody actually listens to it.

Speaker 3:

No, right have you referenced this shark attack like?

Speaker 4:

in business at all. Oh yeah, no listings yeah I didn't know if it was like maybe part of the bio.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, shark attack survivor he kind of mentions it in like passing every now and then and people just don't know if it's, they'll like look at him, be like what, and then he just kind of keeps going. That's how it's mentioned in in business yeah.

Speaker 1:

What's funny is it just takes on a life of its own. Like ray brings it up, I don't bring it up, like other people bring it up, and then I try, I attempt to say hey, it's a traumatic experience. I don't really like talking about it. Most people have the decency to be like, oh okay yeah, never, yeah, never mind.

Speaker 4:

then, yeah, we established that. I do not bring the classy element to this podcast, that's true.

Speaker 2:

Contrary to what everybody thought, despite what looks, yeah, no.

Speaker 3:

We brought her in, thinking she was going to be the adult in the room, and it has backfired horribly.

Speaker 2:

But I keep you guys organized so there's that, so when did you start real estate?

Speaker 4:

wait, I wanted to find out how he actually got the scar oh, now that we know the, that's the real traumatic experience oh well, if I tell you, then I can't make up another story he's gotta really all right, I'll let you have that one, all right no, so, uh, so it's actually really exciting uh was this going to be the real one, or is this?

Speaker 3:

going to be the beginning of the new made-up story.

Speaker 2:

The beginning of the new Mason tale.

Speaker 1:

Maybe you'll realize why I made up the shark story.

Speaker 2:

He stepped outside of his house on ice and went.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so embryo Tim, when I was back in my mom's belly you know I'm chilling, I'm growing, doing'm doing my thing but I had the umbilical all hooked up to my thing and living life and I guess my head was pretty big. And so comes time to make my appearance to the world.

Speaker 2:

And I've had first down the canal.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to meet my mom out of her yep yep got it and so, uh, I got stuck. Like my head got stuck, it was too big, it wouldn't, wouldn't fit through the old birth canal, and so it got squished, my head was your head answering a lot of questions for you guys of why yeah yeah and then uh, so I couldn't get out.

Speaker 1:

I was squished and so they had to do a c-section and they grabbed my feet. They should pull me out, but when they pull me out, my head is like this I got this squished head. My father and his friends used to call me hatchet head because it looked like somebody took a hatchet and just went on my forehead. I always had this long bowl cut covering up. I always had the bowl cut, which was a great era for the bowl cut to be around. I don't know what I would have done if it wasn't a thing. Then at some point I got some surgery where they just like took out the extra skin there and made it look decent so I have no idea if that's a real story or not was how my head got that way, okay nice.

Speaker 3:

I think I like this story better than the shark yeah, this is so is it actually a scar or is it just a big wrinkle?

Speaker 4:

who knows?

Speaker 1:

well, it's a scar from where they took out the wrinkles I got you. I still got some wrinkles on my head when I was in the Air Force and I shaved it. It was awful.

Speaker 2:

Oh, really, you could see it yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you probably got an ugly bald head, huh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a consideration you have to make before you. Yeah, I will not be doing the ray ellen I will be getting micro plugs or whatever it is. However, I gotta do. Well, that's I. I have a beard, because without a beard I look like a volleyball on a neck. It's a very round head, so I got a beard so it elongates the face, so it's not like just a round volleyball on a net pictures of this anywhere I I've seen them.

Speaker 1:

They're amazing. Can we get?

Speaker 4:

AI to get the picture for us.

Speaker 2:

What do you got? I'm going to try to show Tim's video.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, that's right. Does it have you clobbering your eight-year-old?

Speaker 1:

No, it was after I was kicking the kids. I had to film it you know, but it was cool there.

Speaker 2:

It is okay. I gotta know there it is. So this is the room. You see him running around the room. That's pretty wild. That's so cool. Whether you can see that. They see each other. That's so funny. Does everybody likes on the floor? But they're on opposite sides of a wall so they don't see each other do the marks on the floor correspond with with what's happening on the virtual reality? See, the marks are those like that's how.

Speaker 1:

Maybe that's how the software tracks it virtual reality. See the marks. Are those like that's?

Speaker 2:

how? Maybe that's how the software tracks it. No, because that person just ran through.

Speaker 1:

No, no, that's not where the walls are, but maybe the, maybe the software tracks, maybe they're just reference points or something yeah, oh yeah, that would make sense, yeah it looks like a hotel lobby that's been like converted into this so.

Speaker 1:

so in switzerland we were in interlaken, which is like this really cute little village, and uh, there was this whole theme park there that was a like abandoned, emptied, and there was this one vr thing in it and that was it. And I looked it up and it was like the ancient aliens guy made a made like an ancient aliens theme park and thought it could be a thing, and so you would go in there and there's like this pyramid, and so you'd go in, in in there'd be some history thing about Egypt and you're like you know, this is cool. But then, as it goes, it starts talking about how aliens built the pyramids.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome, bring your kid to this cool theme park and you're going around. Yeah, the history is like oh, aliens did this and aliens built the Taj Mahal, or something.

Speaker 4:

Do they play Stargate while you're there?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, needless to say, it's out of business and nothing is there except this one little VR thing, you know a conspiracy theory museum would be phenomenal, like where it's a regular museum.

Speaker 2:

But it takes all the conspiracy theories and begins to just tie them together.

Speaker 1:

That would, but it would have to if it like branded itself as a conspiracy theory museum.

Speaker 3:

I think it would do well if it branded itself as like just a history museum right and pulled a bunch of conspiracies.

Speaker 2:

That would be phenomenal.

Speaker 4:

But see, they would never let that happen.

Speaker 2:

They would never let the conspiracies out like that. You could have a whole flat earth section, moonlanding reenactments that you could do with your friends.

Speaker 3:

Do you have a moon landing?

Speaker 2:

reenactment on the wall.

Speaker 1:

I think that's like a what's the thing. It's just a bunch of old guys, but they make it seem like it's a big conspiracy thing. What it's not. The Freemasons, oh yeah, I think that's like a Freemason sword from my great-great-grandfather.

Speaker 2:

But you're not a Freemason.

Speaker 1:

That cracks me up because they're like Freemasons or this thing with the Illuminati right, yeah, illuminati, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what? That conspiracy lives on the fact that you don't actually ever go talk to someone who's a Freemason.

Speaker 3:

Right, yeah, because if you do Handshake and everything, a freemason right?

Speaker 1:

yeah, because if you do handshake and everything, I mean yeah, but if you do, you realize to be like there's a bunch of old people like yeah, that's what they were not think tim they're not taking over anything this is the ruse.

Speaker 2:

This is just the ruse that they want people to think they're just the gatekeepers.

Speaker 3:

The real shit happens down below in the basement.

Speaker 1:

Yeah no no that's the way to debunk a conspiracy is to like actually go meet the people that they say are taking over the world.

Speaker 3:

And then we never see you again and we miss out on all of these cool stories, tim.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it just becomes Ray's Tuesday instead of Tim and Ray's Tuesday.

Speaker 1:

I know you're creeping in on it too. I saw he switched the name to Tim and Ray's. Now it's Ray and Tim's.

Speaker 4:

He did.

Speaker 2:

I like it. He did Isn't that you, that's not me, that's Ray, his assistant. His assistant likes me better probably.

Speaker 1:

Everybody likes you better.

Speaker 4:

You should have taken a letdown.

Speaker 1:

You weren't on the call last week and everybody's face is on Like hey, ray's not with us today. You know how you can feel expression through a Zoom call. It was rough through a zoom call. It was well, that's not. Is the people logging off? Is what did it, tim I got? 70 people are here. Oh, 42 people are here.

Speaker 2:

Okay, uh, so speaking of masterminds, there's a couple of questions that we can get into, but you have a different philosophy on masterminding than I do. You want to talk about how you plan your masterminds?

Speaker 1:

like four minutes minutes before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so Tim's been doing this for years, right? So Tim's like hey, ray, can you help me with these mastermind on Tuesday, you know, because I'm showing up, we're having some fun. And he was like hey, why don't you just kind of help me out with it? I'm like all right, cool.

Speaker 1:

Take ownership of it with me, Ray.

Speaker 2:

I was like what are we going to talk about? He's like I don't know, we'll figure it out. So we do several masterminds together with Tim, figuring it out like 10 minutes beforehand, and they're good. People enjoy them. But I think it's because the longevity in the business there's not too many topics that we couldn't talk about for an hour and get some kind of value out, because we've both been in the business a long time and so it was easy to to plan this because there was no plan. And so I'm like so now like we're pushing him to do like weeks ahead of time. But, tim, you've been doing this. You've been doing those masterminds long before I got involved. Yeah, you were doing them with the previous brokerage and all that kind of stuff. Have you always been that like, uh, let's just do it and figure it out?

Speaker 1:

uh, I do my best work when I'm building the plane, when it's in the air, like that's just that, that's where I'm at my best, like we do the the video blueprint right, so katie is 1000 the op side preparing side for that thing. And then the chaos of the actual day and the day before and like oh my, my God, the tables aren't there and somebody's here and we're sold out and they want to buy a ticket and like this thing, like that's where I thrive. I love that. I love like making those quick decisions and just figuring out the stuff in the moment. I'm awful at planning something six months away Like that's, yeah, I literally planning something six months away, like that's, yeah, I, I literally like I, I almost threw up when I just said plan something like I can't, it's just not, it's just not in the.

Speaker 4:

Is your wife a planner?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah so I enjoy the stress of that's how you get the information change she doesn't so, like she definitely is better at the planning thing, like we take these trips, well, let's show up to switzerland, we'll find somewhere, we'll figure it out. It'll be an adventure.

Speaker 3:

And, uh, yeah, she actually would like to have a reservation somewhere it's probably smart yeah now is it in a hostel is it the the process of planning, or do you just not like having the restrictions of a plan, because I don't like to actually plan but I do like to have like guard rails or something, even though we don't do it on this podcast.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, I don't want to. Sometimes I talk about this stuff and it sounds weird like I'm not, like, uh, uh you're in a safe space.

Speaker 2:

You know some people have their.

Speaker 1:

They're like court stones in the secret and like they're grounding themselves in their, their vibes of everything like I don't know, I gotta just you know I'm talking about I feel like we're joining a cult a little bit

Speaker 1:

yeah, a little freemason, action a little freemason action, like I'm not big on the, the secret and all that stuff, but like I do believe in a flow state where you are at your peak in like what you're good at and everything. In that flow state, when you're just rolling on what you're good at, you know, and that's where I'm rolling at, what I'm good at is in the chaos, is figuring it out, is making it happen, like I'm not in my flow state when it comes to planning the things out on the spreadsheet and doing the stuff. It's just it. It's it's like when, uh, somebody called me for help writing a contract, my wife will write that contract in eight and a half minutes and look at it, knock it out. I will stare at that thing for 20 minutes, right, and then I'll think about something else.

Speaker 1:

But wait a second, where is that addendum? Where do I find that addendum? When did they actually write that addendum? Is that still the addendum? Was it history, right? And then I'm like googling, googling. When did the temporary lease back addendum go into effect? Oh, I don't know. And it's like 45 minutes later.

Speaker 4:

I've done it because it's just not like what I'm good at doing you know, have you and your wife always been in real estate together, or were you doing it first and then she joined you later on? She?

Speaker 1:

joined me. Yeah, she joined me later on. This is probably a good example. Um one, we were like broke. It's funny looking back I don't know if you guys have ever broke, but you're kind of like, how the heck do we even survive?

Speaker 1:

And so I was out doing stuff and I was getting some level of traction and uh, she knew I closed like some deals because obviously I'd spent all the money, like a good real estate agent does, as soon as you know, the day before it was going to close we were out buying stuff. But anyways, she's like, hey, like we haven't gotten checks for those two closings, okay, like I don't know why. And so she had to go through my email, find out some document I didn't submit or something I did. And so from there on out she started like checking the documents. And then she started looking at contracts for me, because my clients would call me and say, hey, you missed a box. I was like, honey, can you just look at this contract for me? So she may have been doing contract review when she wasn't licensed, possibly allegedly. Uh, nice, and then eventually she just was doing it all.

Speaker 4:

So she got her license that makes sense because you know I'm listening to you talk about like where you thrive in the chaos and everything. But we all know that like to have a business that is sustainable and is going to continue growing and move on, you have to have a certain level of organization, but that's not always our strong suit, right? Or find someone.

Speaker 1:

Or find someone who can do it for you, yes, or find a model where you don't have to be as organized.

Speaker 2:

That's true.

Speaker 4:

Right.

Speaker 2:

That is true, it does help. So it sounds like you like being in the fight, but you were a fighter growing up Golded glove right.

Speaker 1:

Well, silver gloves.

Speaker 2:

Silver gloves Okay.

Speaker 3:

For the uninitiated. What's the difference?

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well.

Speaker 4:

Being me. What do these boxing terms mean?

Speaker 1:

You know, there you go, oh wow.

Speaker 4:

Brings out a belt and everything.

Speaker 2:

Right Let me, tell you, me and my little old man, you just got to do it with the belt on your shoulder.

Speaker 1:

You know, 1999, 11-year-old Tim Macy won a national boxing title, and so, like when the kids, you had the silver gloves and then when you hit, like 18 or 19 or something, it was the golden gloves.

Speaker 4:

Well, congratulations.

Speaker 1:

Silver glove, champion, golden gloves. Well, congratulations, yeah, silver glove champion.

Speaker 3:

That's my crowning achievement in life, so I know from progressing into the golden gloves I.

Speaker 1:

I peaked at 11. That's what it was.

Speaker 3:

That was it what caused the peak was it did you take a beating from somebody, or you just decided it was no longer something that you wanted to take that seriously and it was more of a well, hobby, it was kind of like the podcast.

Speaker 1:

And the rabbit Won a national title. I figured this thing out. I'm pretty good at boxing, so let me go get distracted. God forbid we follow through and keep doing something we're good at.

Speaker 4:

Let's not do that. You lost interest, you reached the point that you wanted to go, and then you're like, all right, let's do something new.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, and if we're sick, on the boxing thing, boxing is interesting, like I got a ton of life experience from it. It's helped me out a bunch. It's a great thing to know. Um, but I w, I, I've, I've always been pretty good at uh, having good perspective and like seeing the big picture. And the big picture was, uh, commit your life to boxing, be a pro boxer. In this, tiny percent of people made a career out of it and this larger percent of people left with some brain damage and some good stories, you know, and so like I think I kind of knew enough to know that I like it, I want to stay in it, but I don't want to make a career out of it In boxing.

Speaker 2:

Didn't you have to plan to take on these opponents and stuff like that, or were at 11, is it pretty much like?

Speaker 1:

no, you just have to punch more yeah, I had my father and a coach who just beat my ass every day so it's just really conditioning, it wasn't?

Speaker 2:

I didn't have to do it, you know but did they like come up with game plans with the opponents and all that kind of stuff?

Speaker 1:

uh, yeah, yeah um you're doing that like I did not have abusive parents, but just the the nature of the nature of the sports all right you're getting in sparring like some kids doing their work for you know.

Speaker 1:

Um, so sorry, uh man, when you're a kid you're going to these tournaments like you don't know who you're fighting, you got like, yeah, each you got. You got usually eight. There's eight people in the in the bracket when you get out to nationals, so it's not like you're game planning for a certain person because you don't know who who you're getting in there against. I'm trying I guess this is a business metaphor but what you had to do was like make sure you were, like you were at a peak for your stuff.

Speaker 1:

So I was tall and lanky, I had a really good jab, and so I needed to make sure, like I had a shotgun jab that was in great shape, that I could like out, jab the crap out of any of these kids. And then there was a little scrappy dude from california, where he was a banger, and so like he had to make sure that he could do what he did the best, and so, um, yeah, I mean I think it was just making sure you were at a top level so you could perform against anybody, which, honestly, not that it's easier. That's a stupid thing to say, but there is something easier about the pro fight game, where you're just training for one person, so I get to study Rick Gonzalez, his every move, and know exactly what I'm getting into.

Speaker 1:

When you're a kid, you're going to these tournaments. You have no idea. All of a sudden, this kid nobody's ever heard of comes out of Brooklyn, new York, and he's just taking people's heads off, putting people on stretchers every time and you're like do I want to win my next fight and have to fight that guy? I and you're like do I want to?

Speaker 3:

win my next fight and have to fight that guy. I don't know. I'm sure there's not like a lot of tape on these 10, 11-year-olds that are coming to these tournaments, so you can't really prepare.

Speaker 1:

Well, now it's different, though, because they do. They all follow each other. Now they do yeah.

Speaker 3:

Back in the day. We're old, so back in the day.

Speaker 2:

Back in the day my did opposition research for me when we were in martial arts. They would.

Speaker 1:

They would be able to tell me what the guy likes to do and hey, like he really loves the round kick, be sure you know, get close to him before he does. You know that kind of stuff. Yeah, there was some some of that, but overall like it would not as much as you can when you're yeah, when when you know who you're fighting that's funny.

Speaker 2:

That was one of the things that surprised me about you the first time I met you, tim, was that you're taller than I expected. You seem short on camera.

Speaker 1:

I got like Tom Cruise vibes. Huh no, tom seems taller on camera.

Speaker 2:

Not that short, you seem short on camera, but you're taller in real life.

Speaker 4:

What do you mean by that, Ray?

Speaker 2:

He was taller. The first time I met him I was like oh, taller than I thought he would be.

Speaker 3:

When you first met Tim Bex, did you think he was that tall?

Speaker 4:

Well, I don't know that. I'd seen him before, so yeah, I thought he was that tall when I first met him.

Speaker 1:

I never formulated an opinion.

Speaker 2:

You never formulated an opinion on his height.

Speaker 1:

No, it is a thing, though it is funny, this virtual world, when we go meet people in person.

Speaker 3:

That's always my big thing. Jeremy, I thought, is way taller than I thought. I thought he was a little short, fat dude. Jeremy Knight when I first met him did you realize Trey was like 5'2" yeah, he kind of you could tell that one.

Speaker 1:

I love that dude you gotta get him on the show.

Speaker 3:

He's a good one somebody may have him already booked, but we don't know because it's a secret one. Somebody may have him already booked, but we don't know because it's a secret tim. So stop, nobody knows that's the gag here.

Speaker 2:

He knows all right. So, tim, what was your first?

Speaker 1:

job. My first job, I mean I had like a like I went, my dad had some guy that was building the house and he had me go like clean up stuff on the work site. I mean, mean, I guess one of my first jobs was, uh, I washed cars at my mom's Mercedes dealership. So she worked at. She's like I worked in the office at a Mercedes dealership and I was in high school and they needed somebody to wash cars, and so, you know, I was washing cars and I'm pretty good at weaseling my way around, so I did a mediocre job at it.

Speaker 1:

And cars and I'm pretty good at weaseling my way around, so I did a mediocre job at it. And then, uh, I would wash the cars and then the guy that drove them to the people's house would pick them up for me and he would go, and then, for some reason, that guy didn't show up. It's like, grab some other guy. That guy didn't show up and I could tell they were a little hesitant but they were like hey, um, do you want to drive the cars? I'm like a 17, 18, and so I was like, yeah, sure, so I end up being a driver for mercedes. I'm driving like brand new. You know sls and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Like a madman flying on the highway because somebody had to, you know, make sure it was running well, um I can't believe I never got arrested or to get in trouble, but uh yeah, I was driving cars for as he's telling this story, I'm picturing that scene from uh, what's the marvel movie?

Speaker 3:

um, with the ten rings where he's the valet they get in.

Speaker 1:

They're just like calling out well, what happened is uh, so connecticut, southeastern connecticut, the corner. If you go right across the water you got long island. So the way their system worked, they were like the highest rated service department near that end of long island. So people at the end of long island would get their car service at our place. But I had to drive like four hours down to New York City and up the island to get their car to them right? So I would drive a loaner out to Betty's house at the end of Long Island. Soon enough, betty would come out she's like 90 years old and hand me the keys to a beautiful SL65 AMG with like 40 miles on it.

Speaker 1:

And I felt bad for the car Because you were not driving the way it deserved to be driven, and so I felt like I had one ride to make that car feel good about itself, and so that's what I was doing.

Speaker 4:

You made those cars lives.

Speaker 1:

Somebody has to. Somebody has to. We don't think about our cars enough.

Speaker 4:

Why were they driving four hours?

Speaker 1:

It was some glitch in the system.

Speaker 2:

So then, what did you do?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I waited tables when I was in college. We were on Craigslist and my buddy and I were like what if we just moved to California? And so we drove to Monterey, california, which is a weird place to go because it's like nothing's really there. I mean there's Pebble Beach Golf Club, I mean golf course, like there's. There's some stuff, but not a ton. We didn't go to LA or anything, but it looked interesting on a map and we got on Craigslist and found some apartment, a one bedroom apartment, and we drove out there and I just found a job at a restaurant waiting tables Two restaurants.

Speaker 2:

You worked two restaurants?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I worked like seven days a week. All I did was work, Made more money than I ever had before. We had three of us living in a one-bedroom apartment and then one of the guys that was living with us went nuts on mushrooms and never saw him again.

Speaker 4:

You never saw him again.

Speaker 1:

That's like you never saw.

Speaker 2:

that's mirroring, okay, I know, what you're doing so anyway, she's going to dive in. You know she's going to dive in as soon as she leaves the avenue.

Speaker 1:

So we had this one buddy who just like was it just wasn't working out for him. Like my roommate and I, we both got jobs and the first week we were there we're rocking and rolling. He went to Denny's washed dishes and quit. And then he tried to get a job at a gas station but they drug tested him so he couldn't get a job at a gas station, just wasn't. You know, drop me anywhere, we'll figure something out. Not everybody is like that. So anyways, he convinces his grandma, I think, to like send him money. And she, he told her that he was going to go back to school or something, who knows. And so his grandma sends him some money. He pays us back all the rent he owes us, which is cool. The first thing he does is goes by some mushrooms. I don't know where he gets him. So I come home from work and he's sitting there on the floor eating one of his apple headphones.

Speaker 1:

Um, as one does, and watching the watching pink floyd, the wall um, I don't know if you guys ever watched the wall, though he's watching it. And so I find his bag of mushrooms and, uh, I hide them. I hide them up in like some random kitchen cabinet, or hopefully doesn't see him. So I go to bed, whatever, wake up the next day, go check the stash. He found it. It's gone and uh, so I took off. I went back home. Actually, I went back to connecticut because I found out my brother had a kid a whole other story, uh. And then my roommate calls me and he's like hey, uh, I gotta go pick up my girlfriend at the airport. And I don't, I don't know what to do with our, our friend here. Um, he's like writing on post-it notes and sticking them around the house. It's like black audi question mark. Uh, 2 am like he's the world's out to get him and he's taking notes on all the people that are watching him. That's amazing.

Speaker 1:

So bring him to the airport and uh, you bring mushroom guy to the airport yeah, I mean, you don't want to leave him like by himself, like it felt like he's babysitting right what could go wrong?

Speaker 4:

so like I'm gonna put him on a plane instead and lock him with a bunch of other people they want to keep him with them right.

Speaker 1:

So they go to pick up his girlfriend, so he gets out. They're like waiting at the bottom of the escalator and stuff. And then, yeah, he turns around and he's gone, can't find him. And then he looks up and like all the planes are delayed. So now he's got delays, okay, cool, now none of the planes are landing. And he's like what the hell is going on? Can't find his friend on. The planes are landing. The mushroom dude got on the runway Runway. He figured out and he had he got like surrounded by a bunch of you know, I don't know, I don't think it was TSA, whoever, and they just tased the crap out of them and they got him the crap out of them, um, and they got him.

Speaker 2:

But but I mean yeah, shut down the whole airport, then after that that's what I mean I never, never saw him again because, uh, after all of that?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I am interested in in what happened later on in life, I think he just so funny get medical attention for a while have you ever tried to find him on facebook and be like just? Curious.

Speaker 4:

No, the curiosity would have gotten me. What if he wants to buy a house?

Speaker 2:

There you go, there's. I don't know if you want to help everyone.

Speaker 1:

I did message actually today One of my buddies from college and then realized it's been 15 years since I saw him. Oh man, god, we're old.

Speaker 3:

When do we get old? When did that happen? All of a sudden?

Speaker 4:

Y'all are old Speak for yourselves.

Speaker 3:

I'm 50.

Speaker 2:

This year guys. Wow, you look good for 50. Did you say I look over 50? You look good for 50. You're at that age. No, you look good for 50. No, you're like 49. I don't know, but for 50, it's good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can put your picture up and be like 50 is the new 30. Se? Yeah, you can like put your picture up and be like 50 is the new 30.

Speaker 3:

Sexy Rick Gonzalez, I don't know about that. Even if you don't look 50, you still feel 50. Trust me.

Speaker 2:

You have to you can make a choice you can make a choice to not feel. 50. Says only people who are not 50. Right.

Speaker 4:

Just saying Healthy living.

Speaker 2:

Mind over matter. Everyone has an age that you still feel. What's your age? That?

Speaker 4:

you still feel you're, you are who me yeah I don't know. I feel like I'm 27 okay, rick, what are you?

Speaker 3:

uh, I'm probably like 37, 38.

Speaker 2:

37? Late 30s was good. I still feel like I'm 23. I feel like I can do the same things. I feel like I'm just as athletic. I'm not, but I feel like I am.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was good for me. I went and sparred with some guys this summer and it was good self-awareness, like I'm not bad. I stayed in good shape. I'm not unhappy with myself, but I'm definitely not 22 it's always the recovery.

Speaker 3:

It's the recovery time that just gets longer. Like you can still do the things you know, you can probably still go box or go run a marathon or whatever, but the recovery after said event and the warm-up is gonna be 10 times longer.

Speaker 1:

Not just I'm noticing, I'm just not like reaction times, like they're punching me in the face and I'm thinking about like mission checks. You know, I just got more on my mind.

Speaker 4:

I'm just older now, like I just have more eats and bounds more in my punch you in the face and you think was that worth it?

Speaker 2:

what's the value of that hit?

Speaker 1:

well, it's funny, like when you think about when you're younger, you just had so much less crap in your mind. It's like a. It's like a computer that's hard drive is filled up right when you're, when you're young. Like that hard drive is wide open and your, your, your mind can just focus on stuff better. Now I've got 36 years of crap in my brain Like it doesn't, it doesn't work all the time.

Speaker 2:

You have to move all that around in order to say Dodge. It's got to go through a lot before you're like move your head.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but you guys all have those moments where, like, a friend or significant other is talking to you and they just realize that you are on a completely different planet mentally yeah, yeah yeah, but that's just adhd yeah, but I feel like that happens a lot more as I get older. I feel like it happens a lot more as I get older tim's having a lot of biden moments.

Speaker 2:

I'm so sorry. I gotta be honest. This whole time, ray, I've been looking at your screen wanting to Tim's having a lot of Biden moments.

Speaker 1:

I'm so sorry. I've got to be honest. This whole time, Ray, I've been looking at your screen wanting to just sniff that back of your neck.

Speaker 2:

That is a Biden moment.

Speaker 4:

I'm like where are we going with this?

Speaker 1:

Just want to rub your shoulder and just see what it smells like.

Speaker 3:

Just curious, he did show up for the show. So I did.

Speaker 4:

I'm very just for that moment, yeah and this.

Speaker 1:

This isn't, this isn't political either. We don't, we don't like any of them.

Speaker 2:

So it's true. No, they could have used that. Who's the other guy? Mitch mcconnell? Uh, oh gosh, the glitch, yeah, glitch m yeah the glitch, multiple glitches, glitch McConnell.

Speaker 1:

I'm not like I think the only thing that I would like to see in politics is just younger people. I was just saying, as I get old, my brain stops working as well. I can't imagine those guys.

Speaker 2:

There was a comedian that was talking about, uh, all the developments in the west and about everything that has happened and all this stuff, and he was just going through like long history, telling this long history story of everything that happened. I think it was since 1937 and he said in 1936 diane feinstein was born, or whatever the year was like. That was the whole. Like he's talking about all this stuff that happened, all the developments and everything that changed.

Speaker 4:

She was born a year earlier and everyone's like whoa yeah out of respect for our elders, we need to let them retire move into their golden years and take a break and the thing is, too, is like the ai stuff and technology.

Speaker 1:

It plays such a role and you just can't expect them to be able to comprehend and understand try to regulate it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's 1933 yeah, it's like, uh, it's funny, you know, being in the business where we are at our age. Or I'll talk to some uh people who've been in the business for a are at our age, or I'll talk to some people who've been in the business for a while and you can just tell there's certain things about a new way of doing things that they can't comprehend. They've just been too ingrained in their previous position and perspective that it's hard to comprehend this new stuff over here. And it's not a knock on anybody that's older in politics, it's just that, like that perspective, it's just hard to comprehend this new stuff.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, they've got 30 something years to go through, to move, to say Dodge, it's the same. It's the same thing, it's just a different, it's just a different item. Right, they have to there's a lot that they have to process and consider. There's a lot that they have to go through, more so than than us in our young days.

Speaker 1:

Well, it inspires me to invest and save, because I do not want to be trying to figure out life when I'm very much older, because, like I know, the world's going to change and I'm just not going to get it. I'm going to do my best, but I'm going to be the guy that's 60, 70, like, having no idea what the heck these kids are talking about.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I'm hoping I invest enough where I'm good to go by the time that happens.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I can't even imagine being 50. Golly, you know.

Speaker 1:

As long as I look like Rick, that's all I care about.

Speaker 3:

You know so here's my thing on that, though Like I feel like because I was one of those kids who I played with like the OG, like video game.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Like Pong, right, yeah. And then I had my Commodore 16, then my Commodore 64, atari got into like the gaming console. So I've come from 13 inch black and white TV in my room and that was it, with three channels, right, me being the remote. And I've had to learn all this different technology along the way. So I've kind of gone through the whole spiel. Some of these people that are older than me, like the ones in DC, they can't comprehend, like they're still, I mean, watching those guys when Zucks was up there, I mean it just made my head hurt, right, I mean they just don't get it. I think, like our generation me probably being the older end of that We've been through so much, we've had to adapt Some of those guys they just haven't had to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. My grandfather could never drive over 50. Right, he was never going to drive over 50 because it was so fast his brain couldn't comprehend it. But you know, we drive like 80 and 90, and because that's the traffic and that's the flow of the traffic well, and that's also because well, that's also because we started driving when we were 16 and he started driving when cars were invented.

Speaker 2:

So that's a different. That's a you know, if something comes out and it's brand new and you're older, you're at a huge disadvantage when, if you're a kid, you know our kids are going to be able to tell the difference in an artificially intelligent generated video with fake audio, while we're going to look at it and go, whoa, that looks, that looks real. Our kids are going to be like, nah, that's artificial and here's how you can tell, because they're growing up with it. So it's, it's going to be a huge adaptation for our generation moving forward, I think that's what I was going to say.

Speaker 1:

Is you mentioned, you know, growing up with Pong. It's like that's like our kids growing up with pong. It's like that's like our kids growing up with chat gpt. Yeah oh yeah, I remember when chat gpt came out. That's how old I am right they're gonna be native growing up in that. But that, ray, you're right that will be. The thing that I know I'm officially old is when I'm in the back seat of a car and like my daughter's driving and I'm like, oh my god, she's going so fast.

Speaker 4:

That's when I know, when I look back at my mom or my in-laws.

Speaker 1:

They're always terrified whenever I'm on the highway.

Speaker 3:

It'll be the first time they pick you up in their personal flying saucer or whatever.

Speaker 1:

As long as I'm not crying in the back seat because of how fast they're going, I won't consider myself.

Speaker 3:

You'll be wet in your pants back there.

Speaker 1:

Be totally normal by then.

Speaker 2:

Before we go, do you want to tell people how you met your wife? Sure, I don't think anyone knows.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

And the job you had when you were.

Speaker 3:

This will be the teaser for the whole episode to get them to watch all the way through.

Speaker 1:

Wait, you know though right right.

Speaker 2:

How I know. That's why I'm asking the question.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, you know all the things, uh, so I was, uh, I was a doorman at a you graduate from bouncing.

Speaker 3:

Dorman is sophisticated.

Speaker 1:

I ran the front door. I was a manager during the day. There you go Really offended by the way.

Speaker 2:

Still get to punch people in the face, though.

Speaker 1:

It was in a casino. There was a lot of cops around. You had to be really careful what you did. Anyway, where am I going?

Speaker 4:

Raise eyes when you said that.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I mean, I mean that's right. So I'm a doorman and you know, I don't know, you're always like talking to people and stuff, and so I had gone to middle school with her sister and I was like I remember that girl from middle school. I'm like, oh, that girl she's with is cute. I'm like, hey, you want to, you want to cut the line, and so that's always like the the big boss move, you know there were like four people in line, but they didn't, they did not have to wait in front of them.

Speaker 1:

So, uh, it was her birthday, she just turned 21, and I was like, yeah, I know you guys come in for free. And so, uh, yeah, she went in and then she comes out and we like make eye contact, my wife and I'm like so. So she comes over to me and she goes to give me 20 bucks. She's gonna tip me. I don't know if you know, if you know this, but women do not tip the door guy. Like that's not like dudes tip the door guy to try to get in the club. Women do not. And I just bought, like this cheap suit from tj maxx and the pockets were all sewn shut and so she's trying to put the money in the pocket, it's not even opened up, yet that's phenomenal, and so I'm like, man, I gotta, I gotta get her number right.

Speaker 1:

Like you know I don't know, this is 2009, so it wasn't automatically just connect on instagram. I don't know what the kids do these days, but anyways, I had to get her phone number. But I had just, uh, had a little escapade of my own the weekend before, got drunk, threw up, dropped my iphone in the toilet, and now it didn't work, and so I had to go get a boost mobile flip phone, and I didn't want to take out my flip phone to try to get her number. That was like a no-go, so I was like, hey, they don't, let me keep my phone at me while I'm working tell you my number.

Speaker 1:

so I told her my number and she forgot it, and so I didn't never heard from perfect. And so she comes back and I'm like, whatever, this chick never called me. And then, uh, she actually called the wrong number, or text the wrong number, and they said it wasn't Tim. And so now she's like, oh, this guy pretended he didn't know me when I text him, so automatic animosity. But once, once we got proximity, it was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna marry this girl, so I gotta get her, I gotta get her name. But it's so easy for me because I check ids right it's like easy day.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, it's a very easy name yeah, and I'm like what the p-h-o-n-e-p-h-a-n-h?

Speaker 1:

and I'm like, all right, well, good, have a, have a fun time. You know, I'll catch you later and then, I don't know, found somebody else that knew her, was friends with her, ended up getting her number, ended up talking to her and I was like you want to get married? She was like, yeah. I was like, well, we got to go to disney world first.

Speaker 2:

But so how'd you find out her name? Did you wind up asking her you? You talked to someone else to get her name.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah somebody knew her and I figured it out, but it was funny. And then this one was I don't think she'll get mad at me for this.

Speaker 4:

This is the perfect story for the show. Tell it, tell it.

Speaker 1:

It was so bad. I mean, we were dating and her cousin was in the back seat and I just gave her a hard time about something and she was like like, well, how do you spell her?

Speaker 4:

first name. Oh, and I didn't remember, I missed it.

Speaker 1:

I missed it, oh no, and we were like engaged, like we were that's phenomenal. No, I made a song in my head, so I never forget what's the song.

Speaker 4:

Yes, sing the song. It's just like a melody.

Speaker 2:

It's like P-H-O-N-E-P-H-A-N-H. It's catchy, that's so good. I didn't know that last part. That's good. I know a lot about you, tim, but I didn't know about the song.

Speaker 1:

All right, there you go. See Ray's just asking questions. He knows the answer too.

Speaker 3:

It's true, we've all learned a lot today.

Speaker 4:

I've learned so much.

Speaker 3:

I know I have.

Speaker 1:

So, the Arkansas fire joke didn't land at all.

Speaker 3:

No, it got me. I thought it was hilarious, I knew it.

Speaker 2:

As soon as you said, tim.

Speaker 4:

I'm not good with geography jokes, because I'm not good with geography.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's more the spelling, it's more the spelling of the state Arkansas is right below. Arkansas, and it's just like our Kansas is how you spell Arkansas.

Speaker 4:

See, I thought you were saying our Kansas Like there was another Kansas.

Speaker 1:

Our Kansas. But, rick, why is that not true?

Speaker 2:

Because Arkansas was a state in 1836.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it's actually. Kansas became a state in 1861.

Speaker 2:

So it should be Kansas technically.

Speaker 3:

Because we were a state first See.

Speaker 2:

But that's not even proper phonetics well, it is if you're respecting the indians and are we gonna dive into the english?

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying how ridiculous kansas.

Speaker 3:

Kansas is disrespectful to the tribe we're gonna, if we're gonna dive into all that, we're gonna have to have tim back for another episode I know that that part two, you guys are talking about all the other things where I don't think you guys are having me back. I think we'll get you back again just to see if you can come up with another story for how you got the scar. That's right.

Speaker 1:

Yes, oh, no, no, no. I had one where I got in a fight and somebody hit me with a cinder block, like right across the head. That's good Cause. Somebody hit me with a cinder block right across the head. It's all about the details. If I have the details of how I was sitting standing over the guy and the fact that I scuffed my new shoes and I looked down at him and that's when the guy hit me, if you have the small details, people believe it for sure.

Speaker 4:

I've learned that Tim is a really, really good liar.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to agree with you.

Speaker 4:

And then we're going to end right there Outro music.

Speaker 1:

Here I'll put it Tim's a really good storyteller, but it's about if you want to tell a lie, you have to convince yourself before you convince somebody else. That's true. I'm pretty sure I could pass a lie detector test on the shark bite, because sometimes I have flashbacks, yeah. Like. I have flashbacks to an event that never really happened.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, that's how it happens.

Speaker 1:

If you tell it long enough your brain doesn't know the difference.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2:

We talked about that and then just selling neuro-linguistic programming. Thank you for coming to my TED talk linguistic programming.

Speaker 4:

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Put your Tim talk.

Speaker 3:

Tim. We are going to have to wrap up, man, because we got another guest coming on soon. I'm going to let you go, but I appreciate you coming on and sharing all of that wonderful info and all those amazing stories, Lots of insight into Timmy that we didn't know At least I didn't, it's mostly entertaining.

Speaker 1:

I'm really curious who your next guest is Me too.

Speaker 3:

Only Rebecca knows.

Speaker 4:

That's true.

Speaker 3:

She's had more guests on than anybody else at this point, I know.

Speaker 4:

They are slackers. Tim, do you play any musical instruments? I'm carrying the podcast on my back.

Speaker 1:

I don't play anything. That's not your theme.

Speaker 4:

But my guest.

Speaker 2:

Oh, here we go. Thanks for joining us, Tim you have to wait and listen.

Speaker 1:

Michael Buble is the next guest. Oh yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3:

That would be awesome. I like Michael Buble, your name is.

Speaker 1:

Tim, Thanks for having me Bye.

Speaker 2:

Tim.

Speaker 3:

He could seriously listen to stories all day long.

Speaker 4:

I knew none of that stuff.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 4:

I don't really spend a lot of my time just being like hey, tim, let's sit down and have a conversation.

Speaker 3:

What do you do with your time?

Speaker 4:

I try to sell real estate.

Speaker 3:

There's that.

Speaker 4:

I keep you guys on schedule For the most part.

Speaker 3:

Hey, look, that was all him oh today's snafu All him.

Speaker 2:

But I'm glad Tim's flexible.

Speaker 4:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

I did know everything except the song about tim but we go we go way way back to like man, we didn't even talk about it on the show, but we started uh, a mastermind about video back in the day, our etv yeah it was a facebook group just about video.

Speaker 2:

We haven't really done anything with it lately. We were doing that. That started in a lobby in 2017, in the lobby of a Tom Ferry. We were all like, hey, let's meet in this hallway. We thought it would be five of us. It was 30 people. We were like, oh well, maybe we should do something with this that was back when he was doing.

Speaker 3:

What was? What was his team rock house or something back then yeah, yeah yeah that's when I first was introduced to tim when he started rtb.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I first saw tim I think it was about a year ago this week it may have even been today at the Hatch Summit. He was across the room, it was during like one of our auction things, and then I met him very briefly at One Reel last year.

Speaker 2:

There you go.

Speaker 3:

You didn't come to Blueprint at all.

Speaker 4:

I came to Blueprint, but I'm just saying, like the first time that we met, oh, I didn't come to blueprint last year, no, I came this year oh, okay I didn't know about it good show, good guest, rick that was fun guys

Speaker 3:

I was really looking for more like stuff to intro him and then nothing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's good enough for tim I. Anything. You would have said no intro, anything who needs no intro. Anything. You would have said I would have known it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he was like, no matter what I tell you, Ray's going to know who I am as soon as you say something. So he just gave me that Arkansas thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, his corny jokes were close.

Speaker 4:

I thought it was hilarious.

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